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"You might notice a difference" from Monday (October 2007)

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AL
Alex
NBC posted:
Julie is a class act and I think now ITN's best female presenter by far.

Obviously you're entitled to your opinion but I completely disagree with that.

She was fine but nothing special; her emphasis on each of the headlines was identical, with her voice getting deeper and her delivery slower towards the end of each sentence, then throughout the rest of the programme her reading was very slow and steady. It was all a bit robotic and Sir Trevor's delivery was by far the more engaging.
(She also really didn't know what to do when it wasn't her turn to speak and usually resorted to smiling inappropriately or glancing furtively at her co-presenter).

I'm not trying to say that Julie was bad, because she wasn't, and I hope and expect that she will improve once her initial nerves have passed, but as things stand both Katie and Mary are better presenters.
I suspect she was hired so that they could be seen to have brought something new to News and Ten.
GF
GrampianForever
Chie posted:
Personally I think Scotland is more like a region of the UK in terms of population (I know it's a country in it's own right) so it should be treated as every other local reigion in terms of national news. There are more people living in London than Scotland for example. In other large counties in England there are the same number of people as Scotland. Wales has the same amount of people as Scotland but they never complain, mainly because the population is 3 million odd and nothing ever happens there. Same applies to Scotland.


Well isn't that the most idiotic post of the day - do you really want to re-open THAT old chesnut?

There are more people in London than Norway or Ireland, should they not get a national news programme? In fact, there more people in the Chinese city of Qingdao than London, so surely London is really that important by your reckoning?
I don't agree that the view that the titles are a bad move, but I have to take issue with you suggesting Scotland should be treated the same as other 'local' regions in terms of 'national' news. Incase you haven't noticed (which you obviously haven't) much of the 'national' news never applies to us anyway, in devolved areas such as Health and Education and in many other ways (the report on the England manager last night being one prime example!) So why should we get the same as English regions just because of population? I think thats utter rubbish. If each English region has its own health system/ education system/ legal system/ national sports teams/ parliament/ everything else that makes us distinct, then maybe, but they don't - so your argument is null and void as far as I'm concerned.
:-(
A former member
over on the STV forum, I have stated to agree for the Scottish six,

lets take last night:

Diana,
Murder - Hostle
could be shown on it, STV woudl just kept the ITN reports

simple
ST
Steery
timgraham posted:
Moz posted:
Media Boy posted:
Looks like the BBC won by a clear million...
4.9 vs 3.8

How accurate are these 'initial' figures though? Did the BBC definitely win?
If things are done anything like Australia they're neurotically accurate..the little box checks what you're watching, and who's there, every 15 minutes and the people who have them are selected quite deliberately.


How can you [do you] get selected to get one of the "boxes" or be part of the set-up?
BR
Brekkie
Alex posted:
NBC posted:
Julie is a class act and I think now ITN's best female presenter by far.

Obviously you're entitled to your opinion but I completely disagree with that.

She was fine but nothing special; her emphasis on each of the headlines was identical, with her voice getting deeper and her delivery slower towards the end of each sentence, then throughout the rest of the programme her reading was very slow and steady. It was all a bit robotic and Sir Trevor's delivery was by far the more engaging.
(She also really didn't know what to do when it wasn't her turn to speak and usually resorted to smiling inappropriately or glancing furtively at her co-presenter).

I'm not trying to say that Julie was bad, because she wasn't, and I hope and expect that she will improve once her initial nerves have passed, but as things stand both Katie and Mary are better presenters.
I suspect she was hired so that they could be seen to have brought something new to News and Ten.



Let's face it - any news reader they put next to Trevor McDonald would look good - even bloody Kaplinsky!


Julie's good enough, but Mary Nightingale IMO is by far the best female newsreader at ITV.
CH
Chie
Steery posted:
How can you [do you] get selected to get one of the "boxes" or be part of the set-up?


They ask you.
DJ
DJGM
Quote:

. . . Big Ben (the best known clock in the country that we time a lot of events by) . . .


That popular misconception again. Big Ben is the nickname of the main bell inside the clock, not the Clock Tower itself.

Quote:

Although the Clock Tower is often referred to as Big Ben, this is actually the nickname of
the bell housed within the Clock Tower – and Big Ben's official name is the Great Bell.


Quoted from ... UK Parliament - History of the Clock Tower
JO
Joe
DJGM posted:
Quote:

. . . Big Ben (the best known clock in the country that we time a lot of events by) . . .


That popular misconception again. Big Ben is the nickname of the main bell inside the clock, not the Clock Tower itself.


Give it a rest, nobody on this board older than around 16 thinks that Big Ben is the name of the tower, but do you really think people are going to trype out it's full name instead of 7 characters? Everyone knows what people mean.
CH
Chie
DJGM posted:
That popular misconception again...


I knew that already. But thank you anyway.

Wikipedia: Clock Tower, Palace of Westminster

Quote:
Words are defined by the way they are used. Even in Britain “Big Ben” more frequently refers to the clock and tower than to the bell. Those who insist that this usage is a mistake may be seen as pedantic.
NU
NewsUpdate
I think its important to realise that it was the FIRST NIGHT of News at Ten, let's not be like ITV execs of the past and criticise something before it has taken root in the schedule.
What I liked was the fact it was just a news programme, no standing around walking around, little gimmicks etc.
Mark Lawson makes a good point in the Guardian review, it was a slow news day, let's see how the channels cope with a packed news day.
The fact is News at Ten pulled in viewers last night, the challenge now is to keep them.
RV
RegionalVariation
I agree with the improvements 'the eye' has made to the News at Ten titles in the video at the bottom of page 77. The current titles stagnate before the 'bongs' while this version leads straight into them from the fly over - far more dramatic and effective I think. I wonder if we'll see adjustments to the titles over the coming days.
NW
nwtv2003
Media Guardian are also reporting that ITV are considering that they may not introduce ad breaks during News At Ten, the plan for the first couple of weeks was not to anyway, but it appears it maybe a little more permanent.

I didn't see it Live, I HDD-d it and it was good to see the programme was 25 minutes long without an ad break. Anyway I was impressed, the content was good, only one neccessary Live link, unlike the usual 100 or so.

It's such a breath of fresh air, you wouldn't think you were watching ITV News, it felt more like the old News At Ten that people used to watch. I just hope that ITV keep it up and hope that they don't fall into the trap they fell into last time where it was nothing special and that it was merely the normal News but at 10pm, it felt no different, and it was no surprise it failed. Hoping that the scheduling will stay constant aswell, although it has been made clear that no Friday edition will appear, but as long as it stays like that, it has a better chance of staying.

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