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News at Ten - Weeknights on ITV1

"You might notice a difference" from Monday (October 2007)

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BR
Brekkie
StevieB posted:
I especially liked the sting that ended with this:

http://www.utvtoday.co.uk/images/nat_sting.jpg



That sting was great. They should definately use that element as the basis for revamping the other bulletins.
ST
Stuart
I approached this with a completely open mind, because for the last few months I didn't believe that ITV were going to do this relaunch any justice and we would end up with just a sad imitation of the old programme. I have also been an avid BBC News viewer for as long as I can remember, so didn't want to dish the dirt unfairly. However,

Arrow The title sequence is better than expected; the slowing down as we "fly" around the London Eye is quite dramatic when mixed with the music, although my mind tells me that there are one too many beats of the bass drum before the bongs.

Arrow Despite my numerous posts about how tacky a CSO set would look, I was impressed. It looks amazing, and can only imagine how it would look in HD. I actually liked the "glass panels" far more than I thought from the publicity shots.

Arrow The graphics and stings throughout were subtle and matched the style of the programme.

Arrow The closing sequence took me back more years than I care to remember. I'd forgotten how good that music actually sounds.

On the whole, an excellent return. ITV certainly haven't wasted the opportunity on the evidence of the first night. The only real negative point for me was Trevor McDonald. But his rather false over-emphasis of particular vowels has always annoyed me.
RE
Revitt
I must say, the new News At Ten was flawless and awsome.

Well done!
AN
Ant
Great set, titles and the content was pretty good tonight. Julie looks so in place compared to our Trev.

Nice work.
TI
timgraham
the eye posted:
I'm expecting to see the titles fly in to hotel babylon or something.
So I'm not the only person!

The glass thing is nifty, set isn't too bad. I can't speak for the content because I haven't seen it all, but surely there are more important things in the world than a story with an introduction that containes the phrase 'Paul Burrel'..
NG
noggin Founding member
Revitt posted:
I must say, the new News At Ten was flawless and awsome.

Well done!


Not sure you can describe a programme where the main presenter continuously looks at the wrong camera - flawless...
NG
noggin Founding member
itsrobert posted:
themagicmonkey posted:
I have no brief for the Beeb but having just watch part of NaT I'm glad I stuck with the 10. The titles may be a resurrection of the old ones but now they just look tacky with their computer-generated weaving across London. It also says a lot that NaT began with an interview with someone who had something to do with Diana whilst the BBC smuggled someone into Zimbabwe. It says a lot about intent - start as you mean to go on and all that. They could have pulled anything out of the hat and it's an interview with an old crush of someone who's been dead a decade! As for the live from Antarctica - the Beeb had someone on board Greenpeace's boat chasing the Japanese whalers OFF Antarctica.


As I've said about two or three times in various threads tonight, ITV News did a week-long undercover investigation in Zimbabwe in September. It's not a new piece of journalism by any stretch of the imagination. The Diana story, on the other hand, was huge. For 10 years everyone presumed she was on the verge of marrying Dodi and now another guy has emerged from the woodwork. I think more people will have been interested in that than another report on Zimbabwe (come to think of it, the BBC Ten seems to like Zimbabwe for a lead story on a big night - check out a video of the relaunched BBC Ten from January 2003 and see which story they led with....).


But the Hasnat Khan story is not new either... His talking is undeniably a good get - but the relationship between him and Diana and the serious nature of it was certainly not recent news. He has been discussed again because of the inquest - but it isn't the first time we've heard about the serious nature of their relationship.
SS
SecretStar
noggin posted:
Revitt posted:
I must say, the new News At Ten was flawless and awsome.

Well done!


Not sure you can describe a programme where the main presenter continuously looks at the wrong camera - flawless...


Hmm... sour grapes, Noggin?

Let's remind ourselves of what the BBC's own Andrew Marr said about the corporation:

"The BBC is not impartial or neutral. It's a publicly funded, urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities and gay people. It has a liberal bias not so much a party-political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias"

I think he sums up the BBC exceptionally well. It makes looking at the wrong camera seem... almost petty. Wouldn't you agree?
SE
Seb
the eye posted:
I don't see what the big fuss about this is, the titles aren't for news, music is crap, set is hideous, nothing else is very good... content is blah. meh


I couldn't agree more.
LO
Londoner
Review by Mark Lawson in The Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/jan/15/television.itv
DU
Dunedin
Haven't seen the programme tonight, but a couple of comments based on the caps and comments above.

- I've said for a long time that Sir Trev is long past his sell by date.

- When you (re)launch a news programme that first story is pretty important. Not because it makes people tune in tonight (as a Diana story inevitably will sadly), but because it sets the tone of the relaunch more than any graphics/set/presentation package ever will.

Leading on Diana's sex life sets a tone for News at Ten.

- The titles look magnificent technically right up until the focal point- Big Ben. It just looks terrible. The first thing that springs into my mind is HIGNFY. I'm surprised that having spent so long rendering the first part of the titles so impressively they seem to have settled for a pretty shoddy effort on the centrepiece of the presentation package.

- It's worth getting one thing clear- the return of News at Ten is nothing about ITV's commitment to news. The programme represents ITN's commitment to producing the best possible programme with limited resources and probable editorial pressure from ITV.

Anyone who saw Michael Grade's "testimony" to the CMS select committee will have seen him admit the the only real reason for the return of News at Ten is because it's more cost effective than 100 hours of original primetime programming at 10pm per year for a similar baseline audience. He admitted that without a moment's hesitation.
DJ
DJGM
Overall, an impressive return for an old favourite. Much slicker than the last time ITV brought it back, several years ago,
so perhaps the less said about that particular era, the better. And with pretty much all of those classic elements that
made News at Ten what it was in it's heyday. The legendary NaT theme music, with the famous bongs of Big Ben.
An updated version of the 1980's NaT opening titles, complete with the zoom in to a certain famous clocktower.


Meanwhile, to quell a popular misconception that keeps cropping up about that famous clock tower:
Whitechapel Bell Foundry - The Story of Big Ben

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