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News at Ten - Weeknights on ITV1

"You might notice a difference" from Monday (October 2007)

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Tom0
Brekkie posted:
I'm not sure that's the case to be honest - though This Morning and Jeremy Kyle may be considered the hits of daytime TV, the truth is the crap served up by BBC1 in the morning usually beats ITV1 quite comfortably.


As I said, I don't know how ratings have changed since the move to 1.30pm, but you'd think ITV News would have a better chance of an increase audience by getting in before the BBC. People watched the 12.30pm bulletin because it was there first - and I suspect now people watch the One o'clock News because it's there first.

Similarly with Loose Women, surely there is a healthy audience around at 1pm who don't want to watch the news, and having Loose Women (or in the past, Des and Mel) capitalises on that and potentially brings in some BBC1 viewers too.


And surely now with ITV1's afternoon schedule being more important than it was a few years ago it makes sense to get them in at 1pm in the hope they stay with ITV1 through to 4pm, 5pm or 6pm. I suspect having a news bulletin at 1.30pm doesn't really help do that. At least at 12.30pm if people go channel hopping and find themselves with BBC1 they're likely to return at 1pm when once again those viewers try to avoid the news.


I still don't think This Morning and Loose Women should be split up as they have a very similar audience, but perhaps this could work:

9.25- This Morning
11.30- Loose Women
12.30- Lunchtime News
13.00- Jeremy Kyle
14.00- ITV Daytime as usual.

One timing that should never change is the Evening News and is easily the most watched news bulletin of the day, usually reaching over 4m viewers and I think that is the only bulletin which is fully established. I still think the Evening News should take on the News at Ten studio and graphics package (although a 'lighter' backdrop during the summer months) because its the most watched bulletin and I think ITV have to move forward and allow their most watched bulletin to become their flagship bulletin rather than hanging on to the past.

On another note, ITV News is rarely referred to as "ITV News" during the longer bulletins. Its always "still to come on the Lunchtime/Evening News ..." or "also on the programme". I sometimes wonder whether it is actually worth having the 'ITV' in the name of the main bulletins and on the graphics or whether the EPG listings should simply read "The Evening News and Weather", along with the graphics (although without the 'and weather' obviously Laughing ).
LU
Luke
Brekkie posted:
Luke posted:
Brekkie posted:
In the last year or two the brand has suffered. It began with the closure of the news channel and wasn't helped by moving the Lunchtime News and leaving the Weekend News as an after thought. Ironically probably the only programme to go from strength to strength during this time was the 10.30pm bulletin - but once news of News at Ten's return broke, all that effort was wasted.


these are all just your personal dislikes really. there is no evidence to show that the 'brand' has suffered by moving the weekend and lunchtime bulletins around.


Well, can't say for certain but I'm sure ratings for bulletins at 4.30pm and 11.45pm on Saturdays would provide the evidence required, and again on Sundays where the 6.40pm bulletin, previously the highest rated of the week, has lost it's slot.


you weren't talking about ratings, you were talking about the 'brand' suffering. again, I don't think there's any evidence that the move of the lunchtime and weekend bulletins did this.
BR
Brekkie
You make no sense - only MIchael Grade could (and would) argue that falling viewers isn't affecting the brand.
HO
House
If NaT were to be axed, what would happen to Julie? And anyone else think she'd be the perfect replacement for George Alagiah on the six if and when he leaves?
BR
breakingnews
Aww give it a chance! It's not doing terribly bad is it. They should start dead on 10 o'clock though, it's going to get a reputation otherwise. But I think it's a good show and the opening is very good. Just bring back the announcer at the beginning, what a powerful voice he had. With him, people will know Julie's name.
HO
House
breakingnews posted:
With him, people will know Julie's name.
Eh? People won't know her name from the ITV continuity guy's 'Now thought News at Ten with Sir Trevor McDonald and Julie Etchingham'?
JE
Jez Founding member
breakingnews posted:
Aww give it a chance! It's not doing terribly bad is it. They should start dead on 10 o'clock though, it's going to get a reputation otherwise. But I think it's a good show and the opening is very good. Just bring back the announcer at the beginning, what a powerful voice he had. With him, people will know Julie's name.


I agree. I was thinking the other day how much better it would be if they announced the presenters names at the start.

I dont mind Julie, but I do prefer it when Mary presents.
KI
kitt22
imnogoth posted:
If NaT were to be axed, what would happen to Julie? And anyone else think she'd be the perfect replacement for George Alagiah on the six if and when he leaves?


No the BBC has some far better female presenters who could do the Six. Sian Williams (currently Six relief) for a start, then Kate Silverton, Emily Maitlis, Louise Minchin.... ect. ect.

What about the secondary presenter on Channel 4 News. I think that would suit Julie. Her and Jon Snow... a good pairing?
TO
Tom0
imnogoth posted:
If NaT were to be axed, what would happen to Julie? And anyone else think she'd be the perfect replacement for George Alagiah on the six if and when he leaves?


If News at Ten was axed, ITV would have to reschedule the late bulletin so she would probably present it wherever it moved to.

I think Mark & Mary would work much better on News at Ten with Julie doing a single header on the Evening News. She was good when she presented News at Ten on her own and looks far more comfortable in the ITV style, probably because its not a million miles away from the style at Sky. Mary does a much better job on News at Ten and looks more comfortable in the serious style so they should definitely consider swapping them both over.
PR
Primetime
Geraint looking sexier tonight in his Berghaus Laughing His report was first after the break and they had it playing on the overhead graphic instead of the News at Ten logo, it looked quite good. Mark and Julie are presenting tonight, so it looks like it is Trevor's week off.
MI
philMID
Nice Umbrella! With the old ITV News Logo!! lol

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MI
philMID
Some branding issues always with ITV

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