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"You might notice a difference" from Monday (October 2007)

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LU
Luke
itsrobert posted:
Luke posted:
John Suchet made some pretty disparaging comments about ITV News when he joined Five. They'd be mad to 'poach' him back (especially as he'll be eased out when Kaplinsky arrives anyway).


Oh I didn't realise that - do you have a link to those comments?


John Suchet posted:
I'm a devotee of 24-hour news channels' I think they are the future of television. Sky is on in our home almost all day long, certainly on the hour. The demise of the ITV News Channel is so sad. ITN was one of the world's great news organisations -I gave it 32 years of my life - and its tragedy from the late Nineties has been the channel that it's on, ITV. ITN doesn't exist anymore, it's ITV News, and it shows. I will be pilloried for this but my newspaper of choice is the Daily Mail. Not for its politics, which don't matter to me, but it's the perfect mixture of news and gossip


in an interview he gave to the Independent last year
ST
Stuart
Luke posted:
it means the offices are being refurbished.

Spending money on improving the service would be better than wasting money on office refurbishment.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
StuartPlymouth posted:
Luke posted:
it means the offices are being refurbished.

Spending money on improving the service would be better than wasting money on office refurbishment.


Though if the newsroom lends itself to more effective working, surely the journalistic quality of the programme would improve? It's like any office - if it is impractical for what it does, the end product suffers.
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Nooze
From today's media section of the Indy:

"Austin has done an outstanding job since taking on the anchor role relinquished by Sir Trevor in 2005. He combines strong presenting skills with the authority and gravitas of a journalist who can report from a war or disaster zone.

ITV's 10.30pm bulletin is regularly a superior product to the BBC's offering at 10pm. It works harder to find new lines on the day's stories and often beats its rivals to the punch with new or exclusive information."

I agree!

http://news.independent.co.uk/media/article3104967.ece

And Media Monkeys diary in the Guardian about Mark Austin being evicted from Trevor' s old office!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/oct/29/mediamonkey.mondaymediasection
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Andrew Founding member
It's all gone a bit tabloid here, with people trying to find scandals that probably don't exist

All the talk of presenters being snubbed and overlooked. Alistair Stewart may not want to work every evening, remember he does London Tonight as well, so if he did News at Ten his hours would be quite unsociable. He probably does after dinner speaking or makes public appearances in London

Also regarding Mark Austin, if I was told that I would be getting the same money but could go home 3 hours earlier, I'd jump at the chance!. The situation of being the main presenter on 2 bulletins was never sustainable in the long term
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reggieB
[quote="Nooze"]From today's media section of the Indy:

"Austin has done an outstanding job since taking on the anchor role relinquished by Sir Trevor in 2005. He combines strong presenting skills with the authority and gravitas of a journalist who can report from a war or disaster zone.

ITV's 10.30pm bulletin is regularly a superior product to the BBC's offering at 10pm. It works harder to find new lines on the day's stories and often beats its rivals to the punch with new or exclusive information."

I agree!

Me too. I think the quality of what ITN put out at 10.30, with a solid team of presenters, is often greatly underestimated on these threads.
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STV Today
Andrew posted:
It's all gone a bit tabloid here, with people trying to find scandals that probably don't exist

All the talk of presenters being snubbed and overlooked. Alistair Stewart may not want to work every evening, remember he does London Tonight as well, so if he did News at Ten his hours would be quite unsociable. He probably does after dinner speaking or makes public appearances in London

Also regarding Mark Austin, if I was told that I would be getting the same money but could go home 3 hours earlier, I'd jump at the chance!. The situation of being the main presenter on 2 bulletins was never sustainable in the long term


Do you know Andrew - you are spot on. I am merely speculating and only judging my points by likening departures and news presenter movements based on those I know and from what I hear.

Most of my comments are based on my opinions and speculation on my part - I cannot lie and say that i am giving well informed opinions.

BTW I am from a tabloid background - so I am one of those gutter journos sorry.
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noggin Founding member
Londoner posted:
From Media Monkey:
Quote:
With Sir Trevor McDonald's return to News at Ten being billed as either genius or desperation by outsiders, ITV bosses are scratching their heads about a more practical problem. When McDonald "retired" two years ago, newly-promoted Mark Austin was given the veteran broadcaster's office at Gray's Inn Road, the only ITV newsreader to enjoy such a perk. But after being relegated to the early evening news - apart from when McDonald is on holiday, of course - Austin faces eviction to make way for the great man's return. New bulletin, new open plan workspace. With the ITV newsroom undergoing a wholesale refurbishment, maybe Austin could share a desk with Julie Etchingham.


Well none of the BBC One News presenters has (or has had in recent memory) an office... Maybe Sir Trev should join in the open-plan working as well. How can he stay in touch with his colleagues and be across breaking news developments and running order changes otherwise... Oh - I forgot - that'll be Julie's job, Sir Trev will - as ever - just read what is scrolled in front of him. Very well. And for a lot of money.
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itsrobert Founding member
noggin posted:
Londoner posted:
From Media Monkey:
Quote:
With Sir Trevor McDonald's return to News at Ten being billed as either genius or desperation by outsiders, ITV bosses are scratching their heads about a more practical problem. When McDonald "retired" two years ago, newly-promoted Mark Austin was given the veteran broadcaster's office at Gray's Inn Road, the only ITV newsreader to enjoy such a perk. But after being relegated to the early evening news - apart from when McDonald is on holiday, of course - Austin faces eviction to make way for the great man's return. New bulletin, new open plan workspace. With the ITV newsroom undergoing a wholesale refurbishment, maybe Austin could share a desk with Julie Etchingham.


Well none of the BBC One News presenters has (or has had in recent memory) an office... Maybe Sir Trev should join in the open-plan working as well. How can he stay in touch with his colleagues and be across breaking news developments and running order changes otherwise... Oh - I forgot - that'll be Julie's job, Sir Trev will - as ever - just read what is scrolled in front of him. Very well. And for a lot of money.


I'm playing Devil's advocate here, but is that so wrong? Is there a case for the person presenting the programme (especially a network bulletin) to be more of an actor than a journalist? The reporters are the ones out in the field finding out the news and putting it all into neat packages. The studio presenter is there to hold everything together and keep the programme running smoothly. Now, Trevor might not be a brilliant journalist, but he does hold the programme together well and reads the script clearly. Compare that to some journalists who turn their hand to presenting and it ends up being car-crash television (Gavin Hewitt, anyone?).

Obviously, with news channels the presenters have to be journalists in order to deal with situations as they arise. But, network bulletins are quite different and I'd sooner have a presenter who reads clearly and stays cool and collected but isn't necessarily a heavyweight journalist than someone who is a good journalist, but a crap studio presenter.
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STV Today
itsrobert posted:
noggin posted:
Londoner posted:
From Media Monkey:
Quote:
With Sir Trevor McDonald's return to News at Ten being billed as either genius or desperation by outsiders, ITV bosses are scratching their heads about a more practical problem. When McDonald "retired" two years ago, newly-promoted Mark Austin was given the veteran broadcaster's office at Gray's Inn Road, the only ITV newsreader to enjoy such a perk. But after being relegated to the early evening news - apart from when McDonald is on holiday, of course - Austin faces eviction to make way for the great man's return. New bulletin, new open plan workspace. With the ITV newsroom undergoing a wholesale refurbishment, maybe Austin could share a desk with Julie Etchingham.


Well none of the BBC One News presenters has (or has had in recent memory) an office... Maybe Sir Trev should join in the open-plan working as well. How can he stay in touch with his colleagues and be across breaking news developments and running order changes otherwise... Oh - I forgot - that'll be Julie's job, Sir Trev will - as ever - just read what is scrolled in front of him. Very well. And for a lot of money.


I'm playing Devil's advocate here, but is that so wrong? Is there a case for the person presenting the programme (especially a network bulletin) to be more of an actor than a journalist? The reporters are the ones out in the field finding out the news and putting it all into neat packages. The studio presenter is there to hold everything together and keep the programme running smoothly. Now, Trevor might not be a brilliant journalist, but he does hold the programme together well and reads the script clearly. Compare that to some journalists who turn their hand to presenting and it ends up being car-crash television (Gavin Hewitt, anyone?).

Obviously, with news channels the presenters have to be journalists in order to deal with situations as they arise. But, network bulletins are quite different and I'd sooner have a presenter who reads clearly and stays cool and collected but isn't necessarily a heavyweight journalist than someone who is a good journalist, but a crap studio presenter.


Lol tell that to Moira Stuart Wink
BR
breakingnews
The front page of the Daily Telegraph for tomorrow has a picture of Julie on it. Anyone know what the story is?
GR
gregmc
breakingnews posted:
The front page of the Daily Telegraph for tomorrow has a picture of Julie on it. Anyone know what the story is?


Will be this story:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/29/nsky129.xml

Laughing

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