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News at Ten - Weeknights on ITV1

"You might notice a difference" from Monday (October 2007)

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itsrobert Founding member
Connews posted:
This may have been mentioned, but I find the editing to the theme tune for the NAT for the Late News yesterday. Anyone else notice just before the headlines it went "dum , dum" x 2? Normally this is x 3.

Poor. How hard is it to change the clockface to 11 for God's sake?


You'd be surprised. Apparently, the company who made them wants thousands of pounds for another version. On ITV/ITN's budget, it would not be cost-effective for just one bulletin per week.

I'm glad they've chopped the drums down on the titles. Traditionally, it has always been two - the three used on NAT this week has sounded a bit over-the-top. I hope they continue with just two for NAT next week.
EO
eoin
Brekkie Boy posted:
They're sending out conflicting messages though - the scheduling suggests it's the weekend, the look suggests it's a weeknight. They've got to make their minds up really.

Though I disagree, I can see where you're coming from. Ratings will be the deciding factor, I suppose.
ST
STV Today
pickle104 posted:
Christine, I realise that you have got your facts right, but the undeniable implication of your posts (intentional or otherwise) was that News at Ten was a disaster for ITV.

Monday can be ignored, as it was the first day, and Wednesday was admittedly not great. But Tuesday and Thursday were both highly successful, and two outta three ain't bad. Few expected NaT to outperform the BBC's 10. The fact that it has managed to beat ITV1's average 10pm ratings last year is success enough for ITV.

Did ITV beat the BBC? No
Did anyone expect them to? No
Does it matter? No

Brekkie Boy posted:
The one element of the News at When situation back in 2001-2004 that worked was the Friday late edition because it was linked in with the Weekend News, which at the time was a much stronger brand than it is now.

Was it? Obviously to pres-heads it was a notable difference, actually being branded "Weekend News" on the titles, but it may not have been as widely noticed by everyone else. Also (if I remember correctly) it was presented by a weekend presenter, as opposed to John Suchet or Trevor McDonald. I always felt that the Weekend branding somehow belittled its status.

Tieing The Late News in with News at Ten by using the same branding (which is recognisably different even to non-pres fans) and by having the weekday anchors gives the programme an air of equal importance to NaT. I think audiences will generally be accepting of a later bulletin on a Friday night, with the same look and feel of NaT.


Point taken - I did go over the top - sorry for that.

I think the more I was trying to defend myself the more people were taking my comments to severe extents.

If News at Ten was the main thing I had to worry about then life would be great,
JE
Jez Founding member
I think they should have just done NAT 5 nights a week and had the 10pm programme on Fridays either after NAT at 10.35pm or moved to another night (probabaly Saturdays).

Trevor could still present NAT 4 nights a week with Mark on Fridays.
:-(
A former member
can I ask has anyone seen this?

Quote:
And there was one totally unexpected windfall. On Tuesday, ITN sent us the press release of their exclusive interview with the prime minister in which he called the work and pensions secretary Peter Hain incompetent. We asked them for the clip and they provided it - so we were baffled when the quote didn't appear on News at Ten.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/
JO
john04
623058 posted:
can I ask has anyone seen this?

Quote:
And there was one totally unexpected windfall. On Tuesday, ITN sent us the press release of their exclusive interview with the prime minister in which he called the work and pensions secretary Peter Hain incompetent. We asked them for the clip and they provided it - so we were baffled when the quote didn't appear on News at Ten.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/

Yes.
:-(
A former member
ITV are losing it!
JO
john04
Jez posted:
I think they should have just done NAT 5 nights a week and had the 10pm programme on Fridays either after NAT at 10.35pm or moved to another night (probabaly Saturdays).

I agree. Friday's viewing figures were, BBC1 10p.m. News 5.1 million and ITV Late News 1.3 million.
BR
Brekkie
john04 posted:
Jez posted:
I think they should have just done NAT 5 nights a week and had the 10pm programme on Fridays either after NAT at 10.35pm or moved to another night (probabaly Saturdays).

I agree. Friday's viewing figures were, BBC1 10p.m. News 5.1 million and ITV Late News 1.3 million.



Do you know what Al Murray got in the 10pm slot?
TV
TV Monkey
Brekkie Boy posted:
john04 posted:
Jez posted:
I think they should have just done NAT 5 nights a week and had the 10pm programme on Fridays either after NAT at 10.35pm or moved to another night (probabaly Saturdays).

I agree. Friday's viewing figures were, BBC1 10p.m. News 5.1 million and ITV Late News 1.3 million.



Do you know what Al Murray got in the 10pm slot?


2.5 million. Down from 3 million last week.
LO
Londoner
TV Monkey posted:
Brekkie Boy posted:
john04 posted:
Friday's viewing figures were, BBC1 10p.m. News 5.1 million and ITV Late News 1.3 million.

Do you know what Al Murray got in the 10pm slot?

2.5 million. Down from 3 million last week.

Hmm interesting. So theoretically NaT could well have done better in that slot than Al Murray.

It will be interesting to see if ITV decide after a few months to take NaT to five nights on commercial grounds. I hope so.
BR
Brekkie
I don't think ITV1 would have done very well after the news either considering at last minute they put a repeat of Honest on, which people chose not to watch on Wednesday, and pushed Heist back an hour, out of the US drama slot they were going to establish, probably losing that series any potential viewers it might have had.

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