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Bush: 'God told me to invade Iraq" embargoed until 22:30 (October 2005)

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Matrix
DialUpBorg posted:
Matrix posted:
DialUpBorg posted:
People like Bush make us look bad. Sad


People like Bush make humanity look bad, regardless of whether your an American or French or for that matter any other nation not taking direct orders from voices inside their head.

Anyone having terrible visions of "One flew over the cuckoos nest" By Ken Kelsey?



(p.s. I meant us because I'm a christian, and also I think people that live in america and here this feel ashamed of their president).


Indeed. Some of my friends (Christians) are deeply ashamed of this lastest (and the others) outburst. There was an article about this and modern American attitudes in the Guardian the other day. Quite interesting.

Anyway, Man's a morron. Need I say any more?
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p_c_u_k
The BBC really seems to be bottling it nowadays. Since Hutton they've toned down any dissent.

First a few days back they reported what the UK government claimed about Iran as fact as their lead story (while ITN took a more cynical view and buried the story), then glossed over George Bush's insane comments, just weeks after the comments by Rupert Murdoch that Blair was unhappy with their "anti-American coverage".

In addition the BBC is often over-political, and extremely tedious to watch. A boring run-of-the-mill speech at a party conference will often be lead when something far more important and interesting has happened in the world. That's not to mention the likes of Reporting Scotland, a tedious, box-ticking, bland exercise which wouldn't be good enough for a minor English regional local radio station, never mind a nation of its own.

It's time for them to up their game. ITV is more inventive and entertaining to watch, and Sky is the winner presentation-wise. In comparison the BBC just looks dull, and at the moment seems like a government mouthpiece.
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rdobbie
The BBC also attempted to bury the story about Walter Wolfgang being forcibly ejected from the Labour conference. On the 6 O'Clock News their correspondent simply said at the end of his report: "there was also a minor incident with a heckler being kicked out during Jack Straw's speech, but the troublemaker was removed before anything got out of hand". No pictures, no mention of the "troublemaker" being aged 82, or the heavy-handed manner of his ejection.

20 minutes later, ITN led with the story at 6.30 and their correspondent Tom Bradby covered it superbly, even tracking down the bouncer concerned and showing what an arrogant thug he was with his "nice cake" comment. The BBC were then forced to revisit the story and gave it more prominence on the 10 O'Clock News, but even then they dug up something about polar ice caps melting as their headline story, just to push the Wolfgang story further down the agenda. The ice caps story was one of those typical 'non time sensitive' stories they have on standby for quiet news days.

I honestly think that if ITN hadn't made it headline news, then the BBC would have completely ignored the incident, much to New Labour's delight I'm sure.
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Equidem
Dunedin posted:
quite amazing really given what would happen if Tony Blair came out with similar remarks.


Thing is, God didn't tell TB to bomb Iraq directly. Bush did.

And now we know who told Bush. A non-existent entity invented by humanity to make the ordeal of death slightly more bearable. Rolling Eyes
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Blake Connolly Founding member
MediaGuardian:

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BBC programme editors turned lukewarm on a claim by a BBC2 programme that George Bush believed God told him to invade Iraq and Afghanistan after a strong denial by the White House.
Just 24 hours after accusations that the corporation's news coverage was backing away from risk-taking, some of the BBC's key outlets decided not to run an exclusive story unearthed by BBC2 about the US president.

It was all the more unusual as yesterday morning the corporation sent out a press release trumpeting the exclusive in BBC2's forthcoming "major three-part" series called Israel and the Arabs: Elusive Peace.

In the programme, Palestinian minister Nabil Shaath said Mr Bush had told them during a meeting in June 2003 that God had given him a mission to invade Iraq and Afghanistan and also to create a Palestinian state.

Abu Mazen, another minister attending same meeting, said Mr Bush had told him: I have a moral and religious obligation. So I will get you a Palestinian state."

As the BBC release was embargoed until 10.30pm yesterday, it had been expected the story was being saved for the corporation to break and would first appear on BBC2's Newsnight.

Yesterday afternoon, as newspapers and other agencies began inquiring into the story, the White House refused to comment. But later in the day a spokesman, Scott McClellan, said Mr Bush had "never made such comments."

However, Mr McClellan admitted he had not been at the June 2003 meeting referred to in the BBC2 programme.

Newsnight decided not to run the story. The official reason given was that the running order was packed and included another story about Mr Bush.

Subsequently, the Today programme also decided not to cover it - except in its newspaper round-up.

However, after it appeared in most of the national newspapers, BBC Breakfast featured an item, while Radio 1, 5 Live, News 24 and BBC online also ran it.

But the BBC News website's coverage was distinctly lukewarm - running the story under the headline "White House denies Bush God claim", rather than the press release's headline of "God told me to invade Iraq, Bush tells Palestinian ministers".


http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,1587432,00.html
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rdobbie posted:
The BBC also attempted to bury the story about Walter Wolfgang being forcibly ejected from the Labour conference. On the 6 O'Clock News their correspondent simply said at the end of his report: "there was also a minor incident with a heckler being kicked out during Jack Straw's speech, but the troublemaker was removed before anything got out of hand". No pictures, no mention of the "troublemaker" being aged 82, or the heavy-handed manner of his ejection.

20 minutes later, ITN led with the story at 6.30 and their correspondent Tom Bradby covered it superbly, even tracking down the bouncer concerned and showing what an arrogant thug he was with his "nice cake" comment. The BBC were then forced to revisit the story and gave it more prominence on the 10 O'Clock News, but even then they dug up something about polar ice caps melting as their headline story, just to push the Wolfgang story further down the agenda. The ice caps story was one of those typical 'non time sensitive' stories they have on standby for quiet news days.

I honestly think that if ITN hadn't made it headline news, then the BBC would have completely ignored the incident, much to New Labour's delight I'm sure.


The BBC had covered the story in depth that afternoon, in the Daily Politics, including interviews with the two ejected and their MP
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TVN
Equidem posted:

And now we know who told Bush. A non-existent entity invented by humanity to make the ordeal of death slightly more bearable. Rolling Eyes


Quite the Feuerbach today aren't we? Laughing

Anyhow..... I believe that if Bush is following voices in his head, then somebody should try to intervene.... it is very worrying.

And I think this documentary is just going to prove this point exactly.

I'm not saying that Bush is definately wrong, but I don't think an Omnibenevolent God would have told Bush to attack Iraq. Nor do I think he would speak to Bush.
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Matrix
TVN posted:

I'm not saying that Bush is definately wrong.


Don't know why not!

Keeping the biblical link, There was a story of a man who wished that everything he touched turned to gold, Well I'm sure you can see where this moral is leading...

I'm definatly watching this now. Sounds extremly explosive.

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