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New Newsnight Studio

Move to 54D from 5th October

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wstvop New member Look East (West sub-opt)
JAS84 posted:
If they're no longer sharing News at Ten's studio, why haven't they gone back to their usual 10.30 timeslot?

Possibly because they hadn’t finalised the studio change date till after schedules were published or they want a period of time to get settled before returning. Alternatively the controller of BBC2 doesn’t want them to return to 2230.

Also, until UK clock change, Persian TV don't come off-air until 21:35. After clock change, it reverts to 20:35.

Perhaps the reduced rehearsal/recording time was a factor, too.

Amazing that they’ve been keeping this studio with a real window view a secret all these years, it seems too good just to be used for a foreign language news service
There are many an English region that would kill for a studio like this

Not a secret. When PTV launched in 2009 the main news desk was in front of the window, until the rebranding geniuses decided (in 2016??) that everything BBC News had to have the same generic newsroom background.
Also - Persian TV audience estimated 10-15 million people.
Newsnight best ever audience (Prince Andrew interview) - 2 million people.

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I can see clashes in the future during breaking news. Who gets priority in this studio in the event that Persian TV wishes to stay broadcasting into the night? It's happened to me three times while working on the channel - and many other times when it hasn't been me in the chair.
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m_in_m Anglia (East) Look East
Also what will happen for Newsnight Saturday specials or are these unlikely to appear? They’ve always been entirely news dependent.
AS
AlexS Central (East) Midlands Today

I can see clashes in the future during breaking news. Who gets priority in this studio in the event that Persian TV wishes to stay broadcasting into the night? It's happened to me three times while working on the channel - and many other times when it hasn't been me in the chair.

I would hope that this is the start of more working together between the English and Foreign language services and if so I would imagine that will largely depend on the story in question and how it's likely impact on different audiences. On the presumption that it is a story with relevance to the UK audience I imagine that Newsnight will be allowed to use 54D with another studio being found for Persian to use if at all possible (potentially studio D with London using one of the small world service green screen studios for it's short late bulletin or possibly a combined London and South East late bulletin from Tunbridge Wells if not a London centric story).
Saturday specials should be easier to plan for as long as they aren't scheduled within the same hour as the singular regional news bulletin on this basis with someone using D for the hour in question with Newsnight using whichever studio is freed up (or depending on the story in question one of C and E could well be unused due to a simulcast between World and the NC).
BR
Brekkie Wales Wales Today
Not a secret. When PTV launched in 2009 the main news desk was in front of the window, until the rebranding geniuses decided (in 2016??) that everything BBC News had to have the same generic newsroom background.
Also - Persian TV audience estimated 10-15 million people.
Newsnight best ever audience (Prince Andrew interview) - 2 million people.

Odd really considering all the nonsense we get about a London backdrop not being appropriate for a UK audience but the only channel they give a real backdrop is the one for the Persian audiences.
Turns out nobody had 2020 vision.
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harshy Founding member
House posted:
JAS84 posted:
If they're no longer sharing News at Ten's studio, why haven't they gone back to their usual 10.30 timeslot?

It is moving back according to the twitter feed for the programme.



I like it. Moving to a different studio during a pandemic is tough, and the fact that nothing about that set told me it wasn't designed for Newsnight says a lot about how well they’ve done. There are tweaks that can (and no doubt will) be made both as they spend more time in the space and as COVID restrictions eventually (hopefully) ease, but I thought it was the perfect fit for Newsnight. The ceiling is a bit low, but the set appears so vast and it’s lit so darkly that you don’t notice the ceiling unless you’re looking for it. I’ve never been much of a fan of how big the ceiling (and general set) was in studio B - it made people seem very small on wide shots, and was otherwise a pretty empty space. Outside of elections, Derbyshire’s occasional in-studio audience and musical guests on Marr, the vast majority of the space in B was never used for anything at all. For the amount of space it takes up, it’s actually a little baffling to justify.

This studio is a balance between intimate and large, has plenty of space for multiple presentation areas, and can be surprisingly well lit for a converted office space. This isn’t an N8 situation, and they’ve far more space than the Salford set Breakfast use has. I like it, and wouldn’t be surprised at all to see Marr move there (even if that means juggling the WS channels’ studio allocations on a Sunday).

Yeah but studio B was also used by BBC World News with Impact, Live with ..., Global in the good old days, all gone now.
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lxflyer UTV Newsline
House posted:
JAS84 posted:
If they're no longer sharing News at Ten's studio, why haven't they gone back to their usual 10.30 timeslot?

It is moving back according to the twitter feed for the programme.



I like it. Moving to a different studio during a pandemic is tough, and the fact that nothing about that set told me it wasn't designed for Newsnight says a lot about how well they’ve done. There are tweaks that can (and no doubt will) be made both as they spend more time in the space and as COVID restrictions eventually (hopefully) ease, but I thought it was the perfect fit for Newsnight. The ceiling is a bit low, but the set appears so vast and it’s lit so darkly that you don’t notice the ceiling unless you’re looking for it. I’ve never been much of a fan of how big the ceiling (and general set) was in studio B - it made people seem very small on wide shots, and was otherwise a pretty empty space. Outside of elections, Derbyshire’s occasional in-studio audience and musical guests on Marr, the vast majority of the space in B was never used for anything at all. For the amount of space it takes up, it’s actually a little baffling to justify.

This studio is a balance between intimate and large, has plenty of space for multiple presentation areas, and can be surprisingly well lit for a converted office space. This isn’t an N8 situation, and they’ve far more space than the Salford set Breakfast use has. I like it, and wouldn’t be surprised at all to see Marr move there (even if that means juggling the WS channels’ studio allocations on a Sunday).

Yeah but studio B was also used by BBC World News with Impact, Live with ..., Global in the good old days, all gone now.


Don’t forget Talking Business - Aaron Heslehurst used the floor space in B to the max!
BR
Brekkie Wales Wales Today
Have the branded shows returned to BBC World News?

Also with BBC Persia do they just loop the last bulletin overnight or do they show BBC World? As someone said this arrangement is fine until there is some breaking news which would usually see BBC Persia on air beyond it's normal hours. Presumably then either A or C would become available as a backup for either Newsnight or BBC Persia.

Is it only this studio and B then that had both a sofa area and desk area?
Turns out nobody had 2020 vision.
LX
lxflyer UTV Newsline
No the branded shows have not returned.
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wstvop New member Look East (West sub-opt)
...with BBC Persia do they just loop the last bulletin overnight or do they show BBC World? As someone said this arrangement is fine until there is some breaking news which would usually see BBC Persia on air beyond it's normal hours. Presumably then either A or C would become available as a backup for either Newsnight or BBC Persia.

The final 27-minute bulletin of the evening is repeated twice overnight, and the "60 Minutes" programme (Newsnight in Farsi) repeated once. The rest of the time it's a mix of Farsi-language programming.

BBC Persian, in contract to BBC Arabic, is predominantly an entertainment/current affairs channel. Think BBC2 with a slightly heavier focus on news. BBC Arabic is predominantly rolling news with some current affairs mixed in.
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ginnyfan World News
I really don't feel the loss of Studio B. I was never a fan of it. Yes it gave them a chance to have different set ups for different shows and it offered a decent amount of space but it never looked that good IMO. It had 2 very similar sides and both were used in similar ways. It lacked the character that other BBC studios have. C,E and other minor sets like new Newsnight, all have certain warmth and something special about that. B not so much. Generic World bulletins looked especially dire in it.
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Ballyboy UTV Newsline
Where does focus on Africa come from then just curious?
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AlexS Central (East) Midlands Today
Where does focus on Africa come from then just curious?

99.9% of the time it comes from Studio C

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