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ST
South Today
Maybe a return to a double headed programme tonight?
SE
seamus
its basically a sofa rather than a desk, a curved back drop rather than a straight one and a large tv rather than a projected screen for the weather.

Not sure why they bothered


Agreed, if they wanted to switch to a sofa the prior set would have been fine. I'm all for getting new sets but I don't quite get the purpose of building a nearly identical set.
MW
Mike W
RDJ posted:
Same backdrop if slightly amended, looks very small, no change to the titles, not keen on the sofa. Bit disappointing really.

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It looks like a smaller version of the East Midlands Today set.

Though the sofa won't really work when Midlands Today only has one presenter on at any one time. It's going to look pretty lonely.

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Could it be the same sofa from 2010, resurrected?
EA
Earlie37
I'm really surprised by the massive negative reaction on this.

OK, so it's not a major change but it is an improvement on what they had before. The screens are bigger and clearer so the close up shots can be pulled back a bit to look more natural. They also seem to have allowed the ability to be a bit more creative in how they're used to introduce different stories. The larger screen is also a massive improvement on the washed out projection it replaced.

It certainly feels fresher, brighter and more spacious than the previous attempt. As has already been said, it wasn't the biggest space to play around with so I don't know why people we're expecting anything drastically different. The fake newsroom is back, but to be fair, London, East Midlands, South East, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland have all updated their sets with tv screens and used the same idea. As has been noted, the real newsroom might've looked rather empty at 6.30pm at night - it's not as if it would add much more to the content of the programme itself.

Interesting to see the sofa back though - as people have said, it could look a bit empty if single presentation is maintained (which I think probably is!) but might make the show go back to a bit more of the warmth it used to have. Also not sure on the square rostrum - perhaps the budget could only stretch so far as it looks a bit out of place.

All in all, I think it's an improvement on what they had. Not a drastic change but shows what could be done with some of the smaller news centres to freshen it up to be more in line with the national sets.
ST
Stuart
Oh dear, that wasn't really worth the wait, was it? Sad

Could they not have put a smaller sofa against the newsroom window view, and still had a desk on a circular rostrum in front of the plasma screens?

I'm assuming that the new large presentation screen is roughly where the back-projection screen was in 2010?

Could some clever camera shots not have achieved this?
MW
Mike W

I'm assuming that the new large presentation screen is roughly where the back-projection screen was in 2010?

Could some clever camera shots not have achieved this?

Give or take.

Personally I think they could benefit from going South East Today style 2001... Open into the Newsroom, set facing one way - on brand newsroom view the other...
WO
Worzel
I'm really surprised by the massive negative reaction on this.

OK, so it's not a major change but it is an improvement on what they had before. The screens are bigger and clearer so the close up shots can be pulled back a bit to look more natural. They also seem to have allowed the ability to be a bit more creative in how they're used to introduce different stories. The larger screen is also a massive improvement on the washed out projection it replaced.

It certainly feels fresher, brighter and more spacious than the previous attempt. As has already been said, it wasn't the biggest space to play around with so I don't know why people we're expecting anything drastically different. The fake newsroom is back, but to be fair, London, East Midlands, South East, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland have all updated their sets with tv screens and used the same idea. As has been noted, the real newsroom might've looked rather empty at 6.30pm at night - it's not as if it would add much more to the content of the programme itself.

Interesting to see the sofa back though - as people have said, it could look a bit empty if single presentation is maintained (which I think probably is!) but might make the show go back to a bit more of the warmth it used to have. Also not sure on the square rostrum - perhaps the budget could only stretch so far as it looks a bit out of place.

All in all, I think it's an improvement on what they had. Not a drastic change but shows what could be done with some of the smaller news centres to freshen it up to be more in line with the national sets.


Yes, agree with this. Its certainly better than the rather tatty looking BBC Look East Norwich set which is crying out for a refurb.
NG
noggin Founding member

Could they not have put a smaller sofa against the newsroom window view, and still had a desk on a circular rostrum in front of the plasma screens?


Doubt they have plasma screens unless they previously had them. Plasma production stopped a while back (the rapid move to 4K kind of killed the tech) - now most BBC English regional studios are having to use LED-backlit LCDs (which are not great, and inferior to plasma) I don't think anyone stockpiled plasmas for on-screen use (unfortunately)

Hopefully OLED will be a better replacement tech..
RK
Rkolsen
It looks good but based on the caps I can't tell if the screens behind the sofa are real. If they are it's a shame they're used for static backdrop.

Coming from an American perspective I just can't get past the use of sofas and coffee table height desks for a newscast. I think someone mentioned that the local news is more of a news magazine instead of a straight newscast. I guess the casual look works where there isn't such violence reported on every newscast. Soft seating areas are generally reserved for light entertainment portions of a local newscast - such as when a movie critic comes in.
NG
noggin Founding member
It looks good but based on the caps I can't tell if the screens behind the sofa are real. If they are it's a shame they're used for static backdrop.

They are screens - the background in them animates rather than just twinkling (like the lightboxes some regions have) Suspect they are LED-backlit LCDs.

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Coming from an American perspective I just can't get past the use of sofas and coffee table height desks for a newscast. I think someone mentioned that the local news is more of a news magazine instead of a straight newscast. I guess the casual look works where there isn't such violence reported on every newscast. Soft seating areas are generally reserved for light entertainment portions of a local newscast - such as when a movie critic comes in.


Yep - we always find US local newscasts hilariously OTT though... It's like they are trying to 'out news' the network newscasts...

Here a sofa doesn't instantly translate to lightweight. BBC Breakfast can do serious news from a sofa with no problem at all. It means being able to switch from serious news to lighter interviews without needing to repo or have multiple areas.

At the end of the day - if you need a desk for your hard news to be credible, the set really isn't your problem Wink

However you are correct - some of the BBC 1830 regional news programmes are quite magaziney, particularly in their second halves. They are also, often, the most watched 30 minutes of news in the UK. (The BBC 1830 bulletins outrate almost eveything else, but don't hit the BARB figures because each show is rated separately)
JA
Jamesypoo
RDJ posted:
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Oh look - a large screen to the left. Quelle surprise.
RD
RDJ
As a set I think it is a nice change. But this was their chance to give the programme a total revamp with the backdrop, music and titles, just like other regions have done when they have revamped.

But alas it still looks practically the same as what they had before, just minus a desk. The set would look a lot more impressive if they didn't decide to use exactly the same backdrop as before.

To compare the two main presenter shots, you'd barely know anything has changed, though you can see there there has been a tinkering with the colouring.

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Though they are using the weather screen to its full advantage as a walk up reporters screen complete with a new podium.

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