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WMD104 posts since 14 Jun 2006
Meridian (North) South Today
Hmm. 1957 update went out in sound only (black screen) on BBC South. Oxford successfully opted in sound and vision for the regional heads; Southampton remained with black screen and audio of a national weather forecast (which finally appeared in vision just before it finished).
RDJ2,207 posts since 25 Oct 2003
Central (South) Midlands Today
Hmm. 1957 update went out in sound only (black screen) on BBC South. Oxford successfully opted in sound and vision for the regional heads; Southampton remained with black screen and audio of a national weather forecast (which finally appeared in vision just before it finished).


This happened in the Midlands as well. Though the regional update did go out.
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Markymark5,196 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
Interesting. I thought the national weather only went out on HD as a filler during the regional headlines?


Isn't the 20:00hrs national weather the Net1 sustaining feed ? The BBC 1HD channel effectively sits back, ( normally for opts the Red Screen of Death pops up)

Reading the above posts, looks as if Network BBC1 lost video for the national heads, and weather, this confused some regions but not all of them ?

Presumably the nations were using studio clean feed, ( and Scotland soon cut to it?)
Rkolsen1,727 posts since 20 Jan 2014
BBC World
Interesting. I thought the national weather only went out on HD as a filler during the regional headlines?


Isn't the 20:00hrs national weather the Net1 sustaining feed ? The BBC 1HD channel effectively sits back, ( normally for opts the Red Screen of Death pops up)

Reading the above posts, looks as if Network BBC1 lost video for the national heads, and weather, this confused some regions but not all of them ?

Presumably the nations were using studio clean feed, ( and Scotland soon cut to it?)

Is Net 1 HD - where the regions downgrade to SD?
Markymark5,196 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
Interesting. I thought the national weather only went out on HD as a filler during the regional headlines?


Isn't the 20:00hrs national weather the Net1 sustaining feed ? The BBC 1HD channel effectively sits back, ( normally for opts the Red Screen of Death pops up)

Reading the above posts, looks as if Network BBC1 lost video for the national heads, and weather, this confused some regions but not all of them ?

All BBC English regions receive Net 1 as an SD feed. The three BBC nations receive Net 1 in HD, along with routable/selectable clean feeds from London in HD

All the BBC English regions receive Net 1 in SD only. The three nations receive it in HD, along with a choice of routeable clean feeds from London

Presumably the nations were using studio clean feed, ( and Scotland soon cut to it?)

Is Net 1 HD - where the regions downgrade to SD?


Net 1 is the core BBC 1 feed that is continuously fed to the English regions, as an SD sustaining service,
it also forms the basis of BBC 1 HD as seen in England. It starts life in native HD, but both Net 1 and BBC 1 HD differ. During most regional opts, Net 1 carries the BBC News Channel, BBC 1 HD carries the infamous red caption directing the viewer to their local version of BBC 1 SD for the regional news.

However, during the short 20:00 hrs sequence of national and regional headlines, both Net 1 and BBC 1 HD carry a national weather forecast during the regional opt slot (of about 30 seconds),
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Steve in Pudsey8,737 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Observation in the BBC One thread that it went black during the credits of the preceding programme, which I initially assumed was a region soft opting going wrong. But it sounds more like pres had a problem coinciding with the ECP?

I don't know whether the nations do the 8pm as a soft opt or if pres switches from network to the local news studio, it might be that the local news studio doesn't have both net 1 and clean network routinely available.
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