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New look 3News in Ireland

End of the virtual studio. (April 2017)

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Cando
RTE seem to live in the 1970s era where radio was more important. They protect Morning Ireland on RTE Radio 1 and have no interest in providing a proper alternative breakfast news programme on television.

Remember the "Morning Edition", an attempt by RTE at a morning news show, they scheduled it at 9am-11am, why? So as not to interfere with Morning Ireland's ratings.


Utter nonsense...
They planned to launch a Breakfast show with a brand new production team over a decade ago but were hit by the recession. Morning Edition was originally planned for 7am made by existing RTE staff and resources but the unions wouldn't renegotiate their work contracts.

It would also be a stretch to call Ireland AM a news programme. Drop the news and sport bulletins and the show is often less topical than a regular edition of This Morning.
JK
JKDerry
RTE One should provide an alternative breakfast television programme to Ireland AM on TV3, in the same way BBC offers a sort of alternative to ITV's fluff Good Morning Britain.

The answer always comes back as either there is not the audience or it costs too much. Crap! There will be an audience for it, and it might be low, but there will be an audience who does not want Ireland AM or the British breakfast shows and money wise, if they could afford the Morning Edition in Studio 3 they can afford a breakfast show in Studio 3.
JK
JKDerry
RTE is Ireland's public service broadcaster with a guaranteed income from the Irish licence fee along with adverts, something which the BBC can not do. They can waste nearly 500,000 Euros a year on utter pricks like Ryan Tubridy who for his salary does The Late Late Show 40 weeks a year and a radio show for ONE hour a day, come on!! 500,000 could be used towards a decent alternative on weekday mornings.

RTE One on Monday 4th September 2017 will have Teleshopping, The Dog Rescuers and Ellen Degeneres Show as their breakfast television output.
CA
Cando


Having said that, much like with the BBC, never doubt the power of the heritage of channel 1, or the tradition of going to it when a big story breaks.


Dreadful comparison, for the majority of the last 60 years ITV was ahead of the BBC in News ratings.

Tv3 has been around for 20 years and RTE is as dominant as ever. To draw an equivalent to the UK, TV3 is C5 News

Tv3 has one bulletin in primetime (5.
30) .The 6.01 and 9 news on RTE 1 regularly get 4 to 5 times the audience.
The Be3 bulletins (7 and 10)rate worse than the old Sky News Ireland opt outs... and are only there because of licence requirements.
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denton
There must be something about RTE News that draws in those viewers... But it really is in dire need of updating the look and feel of its news output. That awkward looking tiny blue cave, with the desk that's so huge they've never been been able to show all of it in one shot, is awful. Are they still doing short bulletins from the corner of the RTE One continuity studio? One of the announcers once told me that they had to stand outside the door while news use the Continuity studio, and then run back in quickly to do their link.
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Cando
However, while TV3 might now be winning the quantity battle, they still have a long way to go before they get near RTE in the quality battle.


Indeed XPOSE is classified as News by TV3 to meet their primetime news quota....

I would much prefer RTE to be spending their money on stuff like Prime Time investigates and the main bulletins than more rolling news which is expensive, rarely needed or watched. I think RTE News wise do a damn good job.
Last edited by Cando on 2 September 2017 1:06am
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chinamug
However, while TV3 might now be winning the quantity battle, they still have a long way to go before they get near RTE in the quality battle.


I agree with this. Having said that RTE News has a lot of room for improvement, but next to TV3 news down the years it's a gold standard. The first real TV News that came close to RTE was Ireland Live on UTV Ireland, but almost no one watched!!! I personally will give TV3 News a chance to see if they've upped their game in the coming few weeks as they claim they have. It's important to have a direct competitor to RTE TV News, something that TV3 hasn't been for a decade or so. (There was an effort made up to the time Granada Sold it's shares in 2006)

As for the Breakfast Time and RTE, there really, really is no point... Audiences are very low at that time. If it's a choice of airing a bulletin at 8am with 5,000 watching or at 11pm when you could get 100,000 plus watching, I know which RTE should pick.
CH
chinamug
Cando posted:
RTE seem to live in the 1970s era where radio was more important. They protect Morning Ireland on RTE Radio 1 and have no interest in providing a proper alternative breakfast news programme on television.

Remember the "Morning Edition", an attempt by RTE at a morning news show, they scheduled it at 9am-11am, why? So as not to interfere with Morning Ireland's ratings.


Utter nonsense...
They planned to launch a Breakfast show with a brand new production team over a decade ago but were hit by the recession. Morning Edition was originally planned for 7am made by existing RTE staff and resources but the unions wouldn't renegotiate their work contracts.

It would also be a stretch to call Ireland AM a news programme. Drop the news and sport bulletins and the show is often less topical than a regular edition of This Morning.


I would think the current Management in RTE are thanking their lucky stars that they never got an agreement to start a Breakfast News programme as it would have to have been pulled in the current round of cutbacks and TV3 would have claimed victory! RTE were considering Breakfast TV since 1984, They used the LA Olympics as a test run and had a Breakfast Show which basically had the Olympics plus News, Weather and other Breakfast show features.

It never got off the ground because every 7 or 8 years RTE has a crisis when it comes to cash and then when they finally had the money they had issues with Unions and work agreements. Since 2007 it’s been totally off the table.

Ireland AM only started because the BAI (or the IRTC at the time) were moaning about a lack of Irish material. It was a very cheap way of more than doubling Irish Production on the Station. I would think that out of 3 and a half hours there’s probably an hour of actual proper TV, the rest smells of Infomercial.

However, fair is fair and it does seem that TV3 are putting a real effort this season into their News and Current Affairs. We will have to see if they can back up the Press releases.
CI
cityprod
Wondering if TV3 will launch the new look news during the Ireland AM News Updates, or whether it won't be until 12:30pm that we see the new look.
ED
edmund
The old studio and graphics still appeared during Ireland AM and the 12.30 bulletin.
BK
bkman1990
I suppose the theme music 3 News Ireland for will be changed when the new studio launches later this evening. If they are going to have a new theme music package; I assume they will have to give a theme that has more authority then the current one?
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edmund
Coverage of the new look TV3 News has been added to Presentation Archive.

Link: TV3 News: 2017 Graphics & Presentation

http://presentationarchive.com/tv3news2017/studio-a.jpg
http://presentationarchive.com/tv3news2017/intro-f.jpg
http://presentationarchive.com/tv3news2017/studio-12.jpg

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