AL
I have always thought that OK; given that they have London in their name I had assumed that there were other programmes to cover the rest of the South East, (and they will stray up to Hertfordshire for the occasional Lewis Hamilton story etc.).
alarsne53 posted:
neither tends to acknowledge their patch outside the M25!
I have always thought that OK; given that they have London in their name I had assumed that there were other programmes to cover the rest of the South East, (and they will stray up to Hertfordshire for the occasional Lewis Hamilton story etc.).
NG
I have always thought that OK; given that they have London in their name I had assumed that there were other programmes to cover the rest of the South East, (and they will stray up to Hertfordshire for the occasional Lewis Hamilton story etc.).
No - the Crystal Palace transmitter is received far and wide outside the M25... It is received as far west as Reading and even into Basingstoke... How often do you hear them mentioned (or anywhere else in Berkshire and Hampshire) on either programme...
noggin
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Alex posted:
alarsne53 posted:
neither tends to acknowledge their patch outside the M25!
I have always thought that OK; given that they have London in their name I had assumed that there were other programmes to cover the rest of the South East, (and they will stray up to Hertfordshire for the occasional Lewis Hamilton story etc.).
No - the Crystal Palace transmitter is received far and wide outside the M25... It is received as far west as Reading and even into Basingstoke... How often do you hear them mentioned (or anywhere else in Berkshire and Hampshire) on either programme...
NG
Don't know what the regional breakdown is - but ISTR that recently the BBC were beating ITV regional news programmes in almost every region with only a few exceptions.
In the 1800-1900 News hour, nationally, the ITV local news is the least watched 30 mins, followed by ITV national news - though that is often close to and sometimes better than the BBC national news, with the BBC regional news almost always ending up the highest rated show in the news hour on either side.
noggin
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alarsne53 posted:
How does it do ratings wise to BBC London, the two are vastly different in many ways, except the fact neither tends to acknowledge their patch outside the M25!
Don't know what the regional breakdown is - but ISTR that recently the BBC were beating ITV regional news programmes in almost every region with only a few exceptions.
In the 1800-1900 News hour, nationally, the ITV local news is the least watched 30 mins, followed by ITV national news - though that is often close to and sometimes better than the BBC national news, with the BBC regional news almost always ending up the highest rated show in the news hour on either side.
AL
Were the figures quoted as numbers of viewers rather than as percentages of the TV audience at the time?
If so I think it would be fair to speculate that more people are home for the second half-hour hence a relative reduction in those around to watch the BBC national and ITV regional news with a corresponding increase in the BBC regional and ITV national figures.
noggin posted:
In the 1800-1900 News hour, nationally, the ITV local news is the least watched 30 mins, followed by ITV national news - though that is often close to and sometimes better than the BBC national news, with the BBC regional news almost always ending up the highest rated show in the news hour on either side.
Were the figures quoted as numbers of viewers rather than as percentages of the TV audience at the time?
If so I think it would be fair to speculate that more people are home for the second half-hour hence a relative reduction in those around to watch the BBC national and ITV regional news with a corresponding increase in the BBC regional and ITV national figures.
NG
Were the figures quoted as numbers of viewers rather than as percentages of the TV audience at the time?
No - they were total audience figures not share.
Recent example :
1800-1830 BBC One 6 O'Clock News 4.5million 24.3% share
1800-1830 ITV1 Regional News 3.6million 19.7% share
1830-1900 BBC One Regional News 5.5million 27.5% share
1830-1900 ITV1 6.30pm News 4.0million 19.6% share
As you can see - BBC One News hour has higher share and higher audience in both 30 minute segments than ITV in the same houe, though BBC One regional news has higher share (as well as highest audience) than BBC One national news.
ITV1 share remains pretty constant through the hour, though total audience number has increased a bit by 1830-1900, meaning number of viewers increase for 1830 show even though share is the same as 1800-1830.
noggin
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Alex posted:
noggin posted:
In the 1800-1900 News hour, nationally, the ITV local news is the least watched 30 mins, followed by ITV national news - though that is often close to and sometimes better than the BBC national news, with the BBC regional news almost always ending up the highest rated show in the news hour on either side.
Were the figures quoted as numbers of viewers rather than as percentages of the TV audience at the time?
No - they were total audience figures not share.
Recent example :
1800-1830 BBC One 6 O'Clock News 4.5million 24.3% share
1800-1830 ITV1 Regional News 3.6million 19.7% share
1830-1900 BBC One Regional News 5.5million 27.5% share
1830-1900 ITV1 6.30pm News 4.0million 19.6% share
As you can see - BBC One News hour has higher share and higher audience in both 30 minute segments than ITV in the same houe, though BBC One regional news has higher share (as well as highest audience) than BBC One national news.
ITV1 share remains pretty constant through the hour, though total audience number has increased a bit by 1830-1900, meaning number of viewers increase for 1830 show even though share is the same as 1800-1830.
GM
Were the figures quoted as numbers of viewers rather than as percentages of the TV audience at the time?
No - they were total audience figures not share.
Recent example :
1800-1830 BBC One 6 O'Clock News 4.5million 24.3% share
1800-1830 ITV1 Regional News 3.6million 19.7% share
1830-1900 BBC One Regional News 5.5million 27.5% share
1830-1900 ITV1 6.30pm News 4.0million 19.6% share
As you can see - BBC One News hour has higher share and higher audience in both 30 minute segments than ITV in the same houe, though BBC One regional news has higher share (as well as highest audience) than BBC One national news.
ITV1 share remains pretty constant through the hour, though total audience number has increased a bit by 1830-1900, meaning number of viewers increase for 1830 show even though share is the same as 1800-1830.
Remember that those figures are averaged across the whole of the UK.
In Scotland, Scotland Today/North Tonight is usually the most watched show of the hour, followed by the ITV Evening News. The Six O'Clock News is the least watched in this country.
noggin posted:
Alex posted:
noggin posted:
In the 1800-1900 News hour, nationally, the ITV local news is the least watched 30 mins, followed by ITV national news - though that is often close to and sometimes better than the BBC national news, with the BBC regional news almost always ending up the highest rated show in the news hour on either side.
Were the figures quoted as numbers of viewers rather than as percentages of the TV audience at the time?
No - they were total audience figures not share.
Recent example :
1800-1830 BBC One 6 O'Clock News 4.5million 24.3% share
1800-1830 ITV1 Regional News 3.6million 19.7% share
1830-1900 BBC One Regional News 5.5million 27.5% share
1830-1900 ITV1 6.30pm News 4.0million 19.6% share
As you can see - BBC One News hour has higher share and higher audience in both 30 minute segments than ITV in the same houe, though BBC One regional news has higher share (as well as highest audience) than BBC One national news.
ITV1 share remains pretty constant through the hour, though total audience number has increased a bit by 1830-1900, meaning number of viewers increase for 1830 show even though share is the same as 1800-1830.
Remember that those figures are averaged across the whole of the UK.
In Scotland, Scotland Today/North Tonight is usually the most watched show of the hour, followed by the ITV Evening News. The Six O'Clock News is the least watched in this country.
NG
Were the figures quoted as numbers of viewers rather than as percentages of the TV audience at the time?
No - they were total audience figures not share.
Recent example :
1800-1830 BBC One 6 O'Clock News 4.5million 24.3% share
1800-1830 ITV1 Regional News 3.6million 19.7% share
1830-1900 BBC One Regional News 5.5million 27.5% share
1830-1900 ITV1 6.30pm News 4.0million 19.6% share
As you can see - BBC One News hour has higher share and higher audience in both 30 minute segments than ITV in the same houe, though BBC One regional news has higher share (as well as highest audience) than BBC One national news.
ITV1 share remains pretty constant through the hour, though total audience number has increased a bit by 1830-1900, meaning number of viewers increase for 1830 show even though share is the same as 1800-1830.
Remember that those figures are averaged across the whole of the UK.
In Scotland, Scotland Today/North Tonight is usually the most watched show of the hour, followed by the ITV Evening News. The Six O'Clock News is the least watched in this country.
Not strictly averaged (in the true meaning of the world) as they are a total across the UK (not an average of each region) - but yes, just because the BBC One audience is higher than ITV1s nationally doesn't mean that is the case in every region.
However the fact that the BBC regional news gets almost 2 million more than the ITV regional news bulletin is significant...
noggin
Founding member
GMc posted:
noggin posted:
Alex posted:
noggin posted:
In the 1800-1900 News hour, nationally, the ITV local news is the least watched 30 mins, followed by ITV national news - though that is often close to and sometimes better than the BBC national news, with the BBC regional news almost always ending up the highest rated show in the news hour on either side.
Were the figures quoted as numbers of viewers rather than as percentages of the TV audience at the time?
No - they were total audience figures not share.
Recent example :
1800-1830 BBC One 6 O'Clock News 4.5million 24.3% share
1800-1830 ITV1 Regional News 3.6million 19.7% share
1830-1900 BBC One Regional News 5.5million 27.5% share
1830-1900 ITV1 6.30pm News 4.0million 19.6% share
As you can see - BBC One News hour has higher share and higher audience in both 30 minute segments than ITV in the same houe, though BBC One regional news has higher share (as well as highest audience) than BBC One national news.
ITV1 share remains pretty constant through the hour, though total audience number has increased a bit by 1830-1900, meaning number of viewers increase for 1830 show even though share is the same as 1800-1830.
Remember that those figures are averaged across the whole of the UK.
In Scotland, Scotland Today/North Tonight is usually the most watched show of the hour, followed by the ITV Evening News. The Six O'Clock News is the least watched in this country.
Not strictly averaged (in the true meaning of the world) as they are a total across the UK (not an average of each region) - but yes, just because the BBC One audience is higher than ITV1s nationally doesn't mean that is the case in every region.
However the fact that the BBC regional news gets almost 2 million more than the ITV regional news bulletin is significant...
AL
Thanks for the figures.
The BBC regional news does do well but I don't think the ITV regional news is faring badly...
At the risk of reading too much into a single set of figures; there are 1.4 million more viewers of BBC1 and ITV1 for the second half-hour and 1 million of them are choosing the BBC.
44.4% of the BBC1/ITV1 audience watch the ITV regional news but only 42.1% are watching the ITV national news.
I'm sure there are people far more adept than me whose job it is to analyse such figures but I think the ITV Evening News, rather than their regional offerings, shows the most scope for increasing audience share.
The BBC regional news does do well but I don't think the ITV regional news is faring badly...
At the risk of reading too much into a single set of figures; there are 1.4 million more viewers of BBC1 and ITV1 for the second half-hour and 1 million of them are choosing the BBC.
44.4% of the BBC1/ITV1 audience watch the ITV regional news but only 42.1% are watching the ITV national news.
I'm sure there are people far more adept than me whose job it is to analyse such figures but I think the ITV Evening News, rather than their regional offerings, shows the most scope for increasing audience share.
LL
London Lite
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On yesterday's LT, Emma Walden reported on the freeze on Bus and Tube fares in 2008. However it seems she didn't do her research properly as she claimed an Oyster pre-pay tube fare in zone 1 is £2 when it's £1.50 at all times.