MA
Potentially and of course everyone makes mistakes but problems can't keep happening - especially if there is going to be a distinct change in content from less reports to more interviews.
Maybe it was nerves with the new setup but Nina's delivery wasn't as polished like it normally is... Give it a day or two.
Potentially and of course everyone makes mistakes but problems can't keep happening - especially if there is going to be a distinct change in content from less reports to more interviews.
IT
itsrobert
Founding member
Saying that if they're reducing content then they should get it correct technically is all well and good, but you're not taking into account that this merger has also resulted in job cuts within production as well as journalistic staff. You can't expect to see the same level of technical quality when the production team has also been cut and that smaller crew is now spread even more thinly than before.
And as for saying that anyone in the control room ought to know what will pop up when they press a button... have you ever been in a control room during a live news broadcast? At best it's seat of the pants stuff and at worse it can be chaotic. I think momentarily cutting up the wrong source would have been the least of their worries on day one of a new format...
And as for saying that anyone in the control room ought to know what will pop up when they press a button... have you ever been in a control room during a live news broadcast? At best it's seat of the pants stuff and at worse it can be chaotic. I think momentarily cutting up the wrong source would have been the least of their worries on day one of a new format...
MA
All I am saying is that they would have rehearsed, it wasn't a random split decision this morning to move into the studio. Of course there are going to be a few mistakes but if they keep on happening then something has to be done to make sure it doesn't do it again.
I can imagine it would be hectic but I just feel that when jobs are ever lost through cut cutting then they should ensure that mistakes are kept to a minimum.
Saying that if they're reducing content then they should get it correct technically is all well and good, but you're not taking into account that this merger has also resulted in job cuts within production as well as journalistic staff. You can't expect to see the same level of technical quality when the production team has also been cut and that smaller crew is now spread even more thinly than before.
And as for saying that anyone in the control room ought to know what will pop up when they press a button... have you ever been in a control room during a live news broadcast? At best it's seat of the pants stuff and at worse it can be chaotic. I think momentarily cutting up the wrong source would have been the least of their worries on day one of a new format...
And as for saying that anyone in the control room ought to know what will pop up when they press a button... have you ever been in a control room during a live news broadcast? At best it's seat of the pants stuff and at worse it can be chaotic. I think momentarily cutting up the wrong source would have been the least of their worries on day one of a new format...
All I am saying is that they would have rehearsed, it wasn't a random split decision this morning to move into the studio. Of course there are going to be a few mistakes but if they keep on happening then something has to be done to make sure it doesn't do it again.
I can imagine it would be hectic but I just feel that when jobs are ever lost through cut cutting then they should ensure that mistakes are kept to a minimum.
GM
For those who missed it:
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg10/scaled.php?server=10&filename=londontonightblooper1.jpg&res=landing
A shot of the national news VR area cut in.
For those who missed it:
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg10/scaled.php?server=10&filename=londontonightblooper1.jpg&res=landing
IT
All I am saying is that they would have rehearsed, it wasn't a random split decision this morning to move into the studio. Of course there are going to be a few mistakes but if they keep on happening then something has to be done to make sure it doesn't do it again.
I can imagine it would be hectic but I just feel that when jobs are ever lost through cut cutting then they should ensure that mistakes are kept to a minimum.
Much easier said than done. And you can rehearse until the cows come home but doing it for real is always totally different.
itsrobert
Founding member
Saying that if they're reducing content then they should get it correct technically is all well and good, but you're not taking into account that this merger has also resulted in job cuts within production as well as journalistic staff. You can't expect to see the same level of technical quality when the production team has also been cut and that smaller crew is now spread even more thinly than before.
And as for saying that anyone in the control room ought to know what will pop up when they press a button... have you ever been in a control room during a live news broadcast? At best it's seat of the pants stuff and at worse it can be chaotic. I think momentarily cutting up the wrong source would have been the least of their worries on day one of a new format...
And as for saying that anyone in the control room ought to know what will pop up when they press a button... have you ever been in a control room during a live news broadcast? At best it's seat of the pants stuff and at worse it can be chaotic. I think momentarily cutting up the wrong source would have been the least of their worries on day one of a new format...
All I am saying is that they would have rehearsed, it wasn't a random split decision this morning to move into the studio. Of course there are going to be a few mistakes but if they keep on happening then something has to be done to make sure it doesn't do it again.
I can imagine it would be hectic but I just feel that when jobs are ever lost through cut cutting then they should ensure that mistakes are kept to a minimum.
Much easier said than done. And you can rehearse until the cows come home but doing it for real is always totally different.
KE
I actually saw that breakbumper on ITV1 London on Friday evening, at the beginning and end of the break before News at Ten. I'm not sure if it was shown on any other occasions.
Nice little ITV News breakbumper between the London and National news.
I actually saw that breakbumper on ITV1 London on Friday evening, at the beginning and end of the break before News at Ten. I'm not sure if it was shown on any other occasions.
IT
All I am saying is that they would have rehearsed, it wasn't a random split decision this morning to move into the studio. Of course there are going to be a few mistakes but if they keep on happening then something has to be done to make sure it doesn't do it again.
I can imagine it would be hectic but I just feel that when jobs are ever lost through cut cutting then they should ensure that mistakes are kept to a minimum.
With respect, sir, it doesn't sound as though you have a large reserve of live news production experience to draw on! It was day one, so I'm not sure how mistakes "keep on happening"!
Saying that if they're reducing content then they should get it correct technically is all well and good, but you're not taking into account that this merger has also resulted in job cuts within production as well as journalistic staff. You can't expect to see the same level of technical quality when the production team has also been cut and that smaller crew is now spread even more thinly than before.
And as for saying that anyone in the control room ought to know what will pop up when they press a button... have you ever been in a control room during a live news broadcast? At best it's seat of the pants stuff and at worse it can be chaotic. I think momentarily cutting up the wrong source would have been the least of their worries on day one of a new format...
And as for saying that anyone in the control room ought to know what will pop up when they press a button... have you ever been in a control room during a live news broadcast? At best it's seat of the pants stuff and at worse it can be chaotic. I think momentarily cutting up the wrong source would have been the least of their worries on day one of a new format...
All I am saying is that they would have rehearsed, it wasn't a random split decision this morning to move into the studio. Of course there are going to be a few mistakes but if they keep on happening then something has to be done to make sure it doesn't do it again.
I can imagine it would be hectic but I just feel that when jobs are ever lost through cut cutting then they should ensure that mistakes are kept to a minimum.
With respect, sir, it doesn't sound as though you have a large reserve of live news production experience to draw on! It was day one, so I'm not sure how mistakes "keep on happening"!
LL
London Lite
Founding member
I'm sold on the VR studio. After seeing how well 5 News is produced after they went VR, they've done a great job on the LT set. My previous comment about the fake plasma is nothing in comparison to how well the studio looks otherwise.
Editorial continues to be an issue, although if they can produce more themed weeks of extended reporting such as Ria Chatterjee's poverty series, this should be enough to keep LT distinctive without resorting to showbiz padding.
Editorial continues to be an issue, although if they can produce more themed weeks of extended reporting such as Ria Chatterjee's poverty series, this should be enough to keep LT distinctive without resorting to showbiz padding.
LL
When 5 News 'eventually' moves to Northern and Shell, that may improve things, but for the budget ITN has for 5 News, it does the job.
Going back to LT, discussed with my elderly mother who thought the studio had a "deep clean" at the weekend. No mention of VR at all.
London Lite
Founding member
If 5 News went HD and the visual quality of the set was better, it would be a good set. On out HD and SD TV's, 5 News looks terrible.
When 5 News 'eventually' moves to Northern and Shell, that may improve things, but for the budget ITN has for 5 News, it does the job.
Going back to LT, discussed with my elderly mother who thought the studio had a "deep clean" at the weekend. No mention of VR at all.