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Markymark Meridian (Thames Valley) South Today
Ne1L C posted:
Jon posted:
Ne1L C posted:

Well I disagree with what you say but I respect your view.

Why do you disagree?


I disagree over your analysis about the over 75's and the licence fee. Its not a question of financial concerns (admittedly I don't know many over 75's and am really not interested in their finances) its a case of psychology. Many over 75's are widows or have very few family around them so the license fee waiver and therefore not having to pay for tv in my opinion helps them feel less isolated.


My mother is an 89 year old widow, and only really has me as family. There is absolutely no correlation in her mind between the TV licence, and her situation. She simply shrugged her shoulders in an <alan partridge meets the BBC's new head of news and current afairs> way, and said it was only my inheritance that the charges would be eating into.
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Steve in Pudsey Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
I'm not sure how you can say it's not a financial issue.

Those who can comfortably afford a license can pay for it if they want one, those who can't should be getting the means tested benefits that would entitle them to continue to receive a free one.
Write that down in your copybook now.
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Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Steve in Pudsey posted:
I'm not sure how you can say it's not a financial issue.

Those who can comfortably afford a license can pay for it if they want one, those who can't should be getting the means tested benefits that would entitle them to continue to receive a free one.


Point taken. I should have said it wasn't strictly a financial issue but the psychological aspect stands.
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Markymark Meridian (Thames Valley) South Today
Ne1L C posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
I'm not sure how you can say it's not a financial issue.

Those who can comfortably afford a license can pay for it if they want one, those who can't should be getting the means tested benefits that would entitle them to continue to receive a free one.


Point taken. I should have said it wasn't strictly a financial issue but the psychological aspect stands.


There's no doubt there are people akin to your example, but there are many like my mum who really don't give a monkey's either way
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Markymark Meridian (Thames Valley) South Today
Steve in Pudsey posted:
I'm not sure how you can say it's not a financial issue.

Those who can comfortably afford a license can pay for it if they want one, those who can't should be getting the means tested benefits that would entitle them to continue to receive a free one.


Indeed, and of course it's not age related per se
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Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Markymark posted:
Ne1L C posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
I'm not sure how you can say it's not a financial issue.

Those who can comfortably afford a license can pay for it if they want one, those who can't should be getting the means tested benefits that would entitle them to continue to receive a free one.


Point taken. I should have said it wasn't strictly a financial issue but the psychological aspect stands.


There's no doubt there are people akin to your example, but there are many like my mum who really don't give a monkey's either way


It doesn’t cover everyone I agree my parents don’t care either but I would wager there is a lot of people who have a different view.
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JKDerry UTV Newsline
Let us have some perspective here about the current licence fee. Now, I am no fan or supporter of the current licence fee set up, I would prefer a simple government grant funded BBC, in the same way PBS is funded in the states.

However, let us take the £157.50 per year licence fee, and break it down to the fact that it amounts to around £0.43 per day.

Now, 43p per day seems to be not too bad a value. Most people waste 43p easily in one day.

Maybe pensioners should look again at the figures, and see that it is not at all too expensive. Remember the UK Basic Pension stands at £134.25 per week . 43p per day, that averages around £3.01 a week, out of the basic pension.

Perspective.
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Markymark Meridian (Thames Valley) South Today
JKDerry posted:
Let us have some perspective here about the current licence fee. Now, I am no fan or supporter of the current licence fee set up, I would prefer a simple government grant funded BBC, in the same way PBS is funded in the states.

However, let us take the £157.50 per year licence fee, and break it down to the fact that it amounts to around £0.43 per day.

Now, 43p per day seems to be not too bad a value. Most people waste 43p easily in one day.

Maybe pensioners should look again at the figures, and see that it is not at all too expensive. Remember the UK Basic Pension stands at £134.25 per week . 43p per day, that averages around £3.01 a week, out of the basic pension.

Perspective.


Agreed

Those that put their 50inch telly on first thing in the morning, and leave it on until bedtime will be spending about 43p a day in electricity to run it.
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Brekkie Wales Wales Today
I suspect those who moan the most about it are also those for which the cost really isn't an issue.
Be nicer and more tolerant to each other. Them's the rules.
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JKDerry UTV Newsline
Brekkie posted:
I suspect those who moan the most about it are also those for which the cost really isn't an issue.

Those who moan about the licence fee are the ones who wish the BBC doesn't exist at all. Dan Wootton at Talk Radio admitted he wished to see the BBC gone, and no public funded broadcaster at all.
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Brekkie Wales Wales Today
Well most reasonable folk would like Dan Wootton gone from the media landscape too.
Be nicer and more tolerant to each other. Them's the rules.
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derek500 West Country (West) Points West
freddied056 posted:
derek500 posted:
How do you measure bias? There's a few opinion polls every week and they all show the Conservatives in the lead. I've never seen Sky News report these or put the scores on the ticker. Yesterday, The Guardian had a poll that shows Conservative and Labour both on 40%. It's reported on Sky News and on the ticker.

If another poll is published showing the Conservatives in the lead it won't be reported or on the ticker.

I would say that poll was put on the ticker as it’s the first time the Conservatives haven’t been the single party to lead a poll in about a year, so it was fairly big news.


Oh well, it was an outlier. The latest poll from that pollster, Opinium, has the Tories back to a three point lead. Not reported by Sky News of course.

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