R2
There's a link to one of the BBC ONE idents in there too.
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I thought at 13.00 I saw some school children, in red, running around. They looked very similar to the BBC Wales School Children ident. Did anyone else notice? (I think it was around 20 secs all though I'm not sure)
marksi posted:
There's a link to one of the BBC ONE idents in there too.
I thought at 13.00 I saw some school children, in red, running around. They looked very similar to the BBC Wales School Children ident. Did anyone else notice? (I think it was around 20 secs all though I'm not sure)
AN
Very poor, unfortunately.
Not an improvement on the previous countdown (and music), and ever so slightly cliched.
Not an improvement on the previous countdown (and music), and ever so slightly cliched.
BB
So were the last countdowns. I was getting sick of seeing the tractor driving through the field, the Angel, the panels being lowered into place on the Sage, the train zooming along, the kid jumping off the wall, the horses breaking out of the starting gate, the stock market men shouting at each other and waving their arms... There are plenty more interesting shots that were very rarely seen of course (before the last 30 seconds or so), but most of the countdowns shown were less than 30 seconds, and that's unlikely to change. As a result, regardless of what images are shown, they're always going to become very familiar because of how often they're shown, and the limited duration of video shown each time.
cdd posted:
I don't think anyone will deny that it's a good first impression. But whereas almost all the other BBC Pres grew on us, might this become worse over time? The shots are very "identifable"..
So were the last countdowns. I was getting sick of seeing the tractor driving through the field, the Angel, the panels being lowered into place on the Sage, the train zooming along, the kid jumping off the wall, the horses breaking out of the starting gate, the stock market men shouting at each other and waving their arms... There are plenty more interesting shots that were very rarely seen of course (before the last 30 seconds or so), but most of the countdowns shown were less than 30 seconds, and that's unlikely to change. As a result, regardless of what images are shown, they're always going to become very familiar because of how often they're shown, and the limited duration of video shown each time.
R2
I suppose at least with this one there's eight versions, and there's many different shots tying in with the music. Then again I do hear you're point about that stupid tractor and fish market with the last one. It's always the same about countdowns, the best shots and sometimes the music are always earlier on.
BO
Couldn't the problems caused by the digital delay be resolved if presentation delayed analogue BBC output to become in-sync with digital?
As well as enabling a clock to be used again, this would eliminate the echo effect experienced when a BBC channel is being watched on analogue on one television and on digital on another television close to the first television.
Wouldn't it just require buffering something like 2 seconds of the BBC analogue channel onto computer memory before it left presentation?
As well as enabling a clock to be used again, this would eliminate the echo effect experienced when a BBC channel is being watched on analogue on one television and on digital on another television close to the first television.
Wouldn't it just require buffering something like 2 seconds of the BBC analogue channel onto computer memory before it left presentation?
HA
I think the delay depends on the digital platform and the recieving equipment - even if they did delay it by two seconds, there would still be sync problems in differenent places.
boring_user_name posted:
Couldn't the problems caused by the digital delay be resolved if presentation delayed analogue BBC output to become in-sync with digital?
I think the delay depends on the digital platform and the recieving equipment - even if they did delay it by two seconds, there would still be sync problems in differenent places.
SP
I noticed on the rare occasions I saw particularly long (60sec+) countdowns, that quite a few of the shots used towards the start were the same as seen in the final 30 seconds of other versions of the countdown. Essentially they'd just re-used bits to pad it out to 90 seconds.
BBC LDN posted:
There are plenty more interesting shots that were very rarely seen of course (before the last 30 seconds or so), but most of the countdowns shown were less than 30 seconds, and that's unlikely to change.
I noticed on the rare occasions I saw particularly long (60sec+) countdowns, that quite a few of the shots used towards the start were the same as seen in the final 30 seconds of other versions of the countdown. Essentially they'd just re-used bits to pad it out to 90 seconds.
BB
I noticed on the rare occasions I saw particularly long (60sec+) countdowns, that quite a few of the shots used towards the start were the same as seen in the final 30 seconds of other versions of the countdown. Essentially they'd just re-used bits to pad it out to 90 seconds.
I'm getting the impression that there's a few sequences that are used in more than one of the new countdowns as well...
Spencer For Hire posted:
BBC LDN posted:
There are plenty more interesting shots that were very rarely seen of course (before the last 30 seconds or so), but most of the countdowns shown were less than 30 seconds, and that's unlikely to change.
I noticed on the rare occasions I saw particularly long (60sec+) countdowns, that quite a few of the shots used towards the start were the same as seen in the final 30 seconds of other versions of the countdown. Essentially they'd just re-used bits to pad it out to 90 seconds.
I'm getting the impression that there's a few sequences that are used in more than one of the new countdowns as well...
DV
I think what's supposed to happen is a fast mix into the first headline image (rather than cut which happened at 1900 yesterday when it was the map of Indonesia). Obviously if they're not quick enough the red will linger a bit then go to black.
BBC TV Centre posted:
And yes, the countdown does stay 'red' for a few seconds at 0000 before finishing to black.
I think what's supposed to happen is a fast mix into the first headline image (rather than cut which happened at 1900 yesterday when it was the map of Indonesia). Obviously if they're not quick enough the red will linger a bit then go to black.
CM
Sorry, still desperately trying to see what everyone else is seeing!
Whilst I cannot deny its (slight) improvement on the previous countdown, in that it actually celebrates the job that is done by BBC News, I still think it's badly built, looks cheap (though I'm sure it's not from what I've read here) and based on one of the most cliched and hackneyd ideas I've seen on screen in a long time "beaming the news in a digital age" ITS BROADCAST FOR GODS SAKE, they've been beaming the news for generations. The graphics are frankly appalling
and look like they were built and tracked in an afternoon on Pixel Collage.
Whilst I cannot deny its (slight) improvement on the previous countdown, in that it actually celebrates the job that is done by BBC News, I still think it's badly built, looks cheap (though I'm sure it's not from what I've read here) and based on one of the most cliched and hackneyd ideas I've seen on screen in a long time "beaming the news in a digital age" ITS BROADCAST FOR GODS SAKE, they've been beaming the news for generations. The graphics are frankly appalling
and look like they were built and tracked in an afternoon on Pixel Collage.