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Suzanne Virdee's sudden departure from BBC Midlands (September 2004)

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RM
Roger Mellie
First joint CNE/CNW bulletin for weekends started today. It appears that TVF's favourite ITV weatherman will be presenting them Wink He's even got himself a new haircut for the occasion.

The weather forecast was also for the East and West subregions, however the UV forecast inc' South too. I'm presuming CNS will just carry on with its own bulletins until it becomes Thames Valley News.
GL
Glenn
Sounds the same as Meridian South & South East. They had pan-regional bulletins today, with Meridian West having their own bulletin.
BS
brotherton sands
Roger Mellie posted:
I'm presuming CNS will just carry on with its own bulletins until it becomes Thames Valley News.


Everyone seems to talk of "CNS becoming TVT" in way that overlooks the fact that only the the eastern half of CNS will become TVT. The western half is going partly to ITV Bristol, partly to ITV Birmingham!!!
AL
Allan100
Were central tv forced to have subregional east, west and south or did they do it out of choice? If so what's to stop itvplc making west and east pan regional 7 days a week? It would save a lot of money would it not?
WE
Westy2
Allan100 posted:
Were central tv forced to have subregional east, west and south or did they do it out of choice? If so what's to stop itvplc making west and east pan regional 7 days a week? It would save a lot of money would it not?


Ain't there a IBA/ ITC/OFCOM reason that they can't do this except in emergencies(power cuts etc) ?

Wasn't it part of the last licence application that had to be split bulletins?

I know the 1980 franchise renewal was the first to involve split bulletins for East & West(even if they didn't get going until 1984!)

Back to the 'bad old days' of ATV Today if that happens!
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Isonstine Founding member
Allan100 posted:
Were central tv forced to have subregional east, west and south or did they do it out of choice? If so what's to stop itvplc making west and east pan regional 7 days a week? It would save a lot of money would it not?


It'd be suicide in a market where over on the BBC the West Midlands and East Midlands bulletins are completely split and Oxfordshire now receives an opt from South Today - agaon building up to a complete split from the BBC South region I believe.

A far cry from the old days of West and East receiving one version of Midlands Today with a 7 minute opt for the East Midlands and further South getting the joys of Newsroom South East which featured absolutely no news about their area at all.

That's not to say that ITV wouldn't try their best to reduce commitments if they had the chance. To be fair weekend bulletins generally contained few news items and a lot of diary items - the pan regional bulletins will make them actually seem a lot newsier. But still, it could be the thin end of the wedge.
CW
CentralWest
http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/cnwseats.jpg

Look how bad the seats have gone now. They must keep tilting the backs further forward, making them look really poor in side shots. CNE are okay.

Anyone know the reason why the seating have been brought forward anyway? The screen looks very small now.
CW
CentralWest
A comparison of CNW studio and CNE:

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/cnwstudio.jpghttp://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/cnestudio.jpg

East's looks alot nicer.
RM
rmc
[quote="Isonstine"]
Allan100 posted:


A far cry from the old days of West and East receiving one version of Midlands Today with a 7 minute opt for the East Midlands and further South getting the joys of Newsroom South East which featured absolutely no news about their area at all.


I think to be fair to the Elstree team NSE always seemed to have a story from the Oxfordshire & Kent reporters nightly, rather in the same way most regions use their county/district reporters.

It is true though that the core programme rarely did anywhere outside London justice, although it was rather tiresome to see constant reports on "Oxfordshire's Tin Henman" and Oxon-based F1 teams. I thought when I escaped London for Gloucester I would be spared that - only to get the same on Central South.

We still haven't had a full explanation of how Ridge Hill is to split its coverage area between Central and ITV West - anyone know how ITV are planning to pull that one off?
CO
countyboy
My understanding is that they are installing a new transmitter at Ridge Hill, broadcasting to the south east (i.e. to us in Gloucestershire who do not already get pictures from Mendip or its relays). I assume that this will require people to retune their TVs to another channel.
Given that ITV supports this to align with national regions, it would be sensible for relays in Gloucesterhire that are attached to Sutton Coldfield to also be reallocated to receive ITV West (i.e. Winchcombe, Guiting Power and Icomb Hill.) - I am assuming that all Gloucestershire Ridge Hill relays will be switched to West with the new transmitter.
If the Sutton Coldfield relays are switched, along with the new Ridge Hill arrangements, and the existing Mendip coverage, i reckon that 95% of Gloucestershire will get ITV from Bristol (which is what people here have been craving for years).
Areas missing out would be:
1. Those covered from Lark Stoke (which can't be switched because of the majority of its viewers are in Warwickshire and Worcestershire) which I believe to be those in Chipping Campden and Moreton-in-Marsh (some in Moreton may be able to switch to Icomb Hill).
2. Those around Fairford and Lechlade, who receive from Oxford (some of whom may be able to switch to receive from Mendip or Cirencester).
RM
Roger Mellie
Westy2 posted:
Allan100 posted:
Were central tv forced to have subregional east, west and south or did they do it out of choice? If so what's to stop itvplc making west and east pan regional 7 days a week? It would save a lot of money would it not?


Ain't there a IBA/ ITC/OFCOM reason that they can't do this except in emergencies(power cuts etc) ?

Wasn't it part of the last licence application that had to be split bulletins?

I know the 1980 franchise renewal was the first to involve split bulletins for East & West(even if they didn't get going until 1984!)

Back to the 'bad old days' of ATV Today if that happens!


I can understand their being able to do pan-regional bulletins during GMTV, because GMTV has different rules to the rest of ITV (so I believe). How did they get around Ofcom for the weekend pan-regional bulletins?

Admittedly CNE at weekends contained previews and diary features (I should imagine CNW would have been the same ?)-- so a joint bulletin will contain more news.

During the week, too much news goes on in both the subregions for a joint bulletin-- although I don't expect that to stop ITV merging them in the future! I imagine regional news will be scrapped altogether anyway soon, when the switchover to digital is complete. Analogue licence obligations will no longer apply Rolling Eyes Sad Unless of course Ofcom have bothered to write some ITV regional safeguards for digital broadcasting?
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Westy2
Les Ross talking to Pans Peoples Babs Lord Powell on WM at the mo!

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