The Newsroom

New BBC South East Set

Split from New Meridian, BBC South & South East Thread (July 2014)

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DA
David
I notice at the end of the 18:30 programme, Georgina Burnett didn't go over to the desk as I believe would normally happen (although the main presenters would be on the sofas rather than at the desk more often that not). Rob Smith and Polly Evans did look at her and she looked back though. Were they actually further/closer than it seemed and her walking over to the desk would have ruined the illusion?
CR
Critique
Where is the back wall of the set here, as in the part with the glass that backs onto the newsroom? Is it where the grey floor ends or further down?
DF
DrewF
Where is the back wall of the set here, as in the part with the glass that backs onto the newsroom? Is it where the grey floor ends or further down?


I think it has to be where the grey floor/black wall ends.
PC
Philip Cobbold
Isn't the black wall area where the original 1999 set was, as that set was open plan with the newsroom. When the next set went it they expanded out into the newsroom a bit, and the sofa area ended up where the original set had been. There's a video on TV Ark of the set being built, although you can't really tell much due to the resolution.

http://www.anke.tw/anke/2010/02/bbc1769.jpg
This shows the desk was under the bit with the white ceiling, so that must have originally been part of the newsroom space.
DA
David
I don't think anyone has posted this video yet...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152586690813648&permPage=1

The green screen didn't work so well this evening. Polly Evans kept losing her arm/hand or bits of paper when she reached too far towards the screen.
DO
dosxuk
David posted:
I don't think anyone has posted this video yet...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152586690813648&permPage=1


It's when you read the comments on things like that you wonder why they even bother posting these types of videos.
Stuart, Critique and bilky asko gave kudos
CR
Critique
The video confirms that they'll be losing their newsroom view - quite a shame after all these years!
DA
David
It's when you read the comments on things like that you wonder why they even bother posting these types of videos.


I do think there is a valid question to be asked about the rights and wrongs of the BBC producing content for a commercial company such as Facebook. Especially as it seems to be exclusively available on Facebook. Uploading previously broadcast reports and weather updates is one thing but I think making content especially for Facebook crosses a line that I am not completely comfortable with. Presumably, according to the Facebook terms and conditions if not UK law, they now own the copyright to that video.
AS
Asa Admin
It's when you read the comments on things like that you wonder why they even bother posting these types of videos.

Indeed. They'd be better off get me to drive over to Tunbridge Wells with a cameraphone and doing updates for this site!

Anyway, he's a clearer view of how it was originally set up.

http://i.tvforum.co.uk.s3.amazonaws.com/tmp/bbcset.jpg
DO
dosxuk
David posted:
Presumably, according to the Facebook terms and conditions if not UK law, they now own the copyright to that video.


No they don't. Lots of people with no clue about copyright will try and tell you they do though.

Basically, when you upload material to Facebook, you automatically give them the right to distribute that content. They kind of need that right, because otherwise they wouldn't be able to show it to anyone apart from the uploader, which isn't exactly helpful for anyone.

Facebook posted:
For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos (IP content), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook (IP License). This IP License ends when you delete your IP content or your account unless your content has been shared with others, and they have not deleted it.


There's nothing there about handing over the copyright or ownership of the material.
bilky asko and Steve in Pudsey gave kudos
SP
Steve in Pudsey
No they don't. Lots of people with no clue about copyright will try and tell you they do though.

Basically, when you upload material to Facebook, you automatically give them the right to distribute that content. They kind of need that right, because otherwise they wouldn't be able to show it to anyone apart from the uploader, which isn't exactly helpful for anyone.


AFAIK that's pretty much spot on.

Although there is a slight grey area in that the content is owned by the BBC, and I'm not convinced that the average BBC journo is in a position to enter into legally binding licensing agreement for that content on behalf of the BBC, so I'm not sure how well they'd get on if it ever went to court.

18 days later

AS
Asa Admin
Only caught the end of tonight's but it was just Polly on her own and no wide/end shots, it ended fading into the titles. Everyone on a bank holiday early or are they gearing up for the new look on Tuesday?

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