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Nationwide to return claims The Times

(December 2005)

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IS
Inspector Sands
tvmercia posted:

cycle goes around again. lets hope the idea dies a death because it'd be a shame for regional programmes to lose their identities again so soon after the shackles of corporatism had begun to slowly ebb away.


'Shackles of corporatism'?.... you do realise that they are programmes made by departments which are part of a corporation?

Anyway, who said anything about standardisation?
IS
Inspector Sands
StuartPlymouth posted:
Under this proposal I presume they would start with National at 6.30, but that is too late (as no doubt ITV's viewing figures will show).


Not necessarily, it would be possible to have the 6 o clock news and then an hour of 'Nationwide' style programme. After all that is what they used to do in the era of Nationwide/Sixty Minutes - tere was a news bulletin at 5:40 as well as Nationwide. But then there is an infinite number of diffrent programe formats they could do.

A later time could be good for some parts of the country, London for example, where lots of people don't get home from work till after 7.
TE
TELEVISION
I suppose it would work with the Six O'Clock News running until 6.30 as usual, then crossing to Nationwide at 6.30. Then we could have regional news beginning at about 6.50 until 7.20, and then back to Nationwide until 7.30.

The Six O'Clock News could focus more on international news, and Nationwide on UK news. I think this idea could work quite well.
NG
noggin Founding member
TELEVISION posted:
I suppose it would work with the Six O'Clock News running until 6.30 as usual, then crossing to Nationwide at 6.30. Then we could have regional news beginning at about 6.50 until 7.20, and then back to Nationwide until 7.30.

The Six O'Clock News could focus more on international news, and Nationwide on UK news. I think this idea could work quite well.


You'd still have to cover national news on the Six, as if the most important story of the day is domestic, viewers would expect to see it covered first.

I think a better mix would be news first, then current affairs later.
NG
noggin Founding member
StuartPlymouth posted:
I can't really see anything wrong with the current format of 30mins National then 25mins Regional from 6-7pm.

Under this proposal I presume they would start with National at 6.30, but that is too late (as no doubt ITV's viewing figures will show).

Finishing the "news hour" at 7.30 is also a recipe for disaster. I doubt they will tempt many viewers away from Emmerdale with a regional news programme. Incidentally, is that not why ITV bury their obligated locally produced drivel against EastEnders on Tuesdays rather than in any other primetime slot. Confused


I think you are jumping to many conclusions here. I wouldn't expect the news to start later, nor would I expect the news hour to stretch to 90 mins. I think the idea is to hold across the junction, not across the whole slot, though this would cause interesting scheduling issues until 2000 - especially on days with East Enders. (Maybe they would move to 2x25 min shows from 1910-2000?)
TE
TELEVISION
Yes, I know. But it could still have more of an international focus.
CO
Corin
Should regional items be on the BBC first network?

Would it not be better for everybody if the BBC had a channel which was only regional using the mega regions in England for non news North, Midlands, South & East, South & West, and regional for the news bulletins and news magazine and current affairs programs, where the regional head of broadcasting could decide the schedule for their own region?

In the multi channel digital age, there is no longer the same limitation on bandwidth that
there once was.
AN
Andrew Founding member
TELEVISION posted:
Yes, I know. But it could still have more of an international focus.

what is this obsession with "international" news?
TE
TELEVISION
Andrew posted:
TELEVISION posted:
Yes, I know. But it could still have more of an international focus.

what is this obsession with "international" news?


It's not an obsession, just the fact that there is a lot of important stuff going on the world. Most of it more important than a lot of the stuff that is covered in UK.
AN
all new Phil
Well I get my daily fix of internashionull newsh from James Rubin thank you very much. The ratings for that would suggest that not *that* many people want such a high proportion of stories like that. Unless it's all James' fault.
MA
marksi
TELEVISION posted:
Andrew posted:
TELEVISION posted:
Yes, I know. But it could still have more of an international focus.

what is this obsession with "international" news?


It's not an obsession, just the fact that there is a lot of important stuff going on the world. Most of it more important than a lot of the stuff that is covered in UK.


It very much depends on your definition of "important". Does a plane crash in Iran affect anyone in the UK in any way? Probably not. That doesn't mean it's not important but you could argue it was irrelevant to a UK audience.

Using that argument you could also argue that the weather should lead the bulletin as it's the one thing that will affect almost everyone the very next day. What other news item does that? (and yes, I am playing devil's advocate here).

On the start times for news, UTV beats BBC Newsline simply because of the time it's on. People in NI mostly have short commuter journeys and are home by 6, therefore watch the local news on UTV because it's on first. It's certainly not a better news bulletin. To shift Newsline back further would not improve the situation. Integrating the Nations and Regions into a "wraparound" Six would most likely shorten the news programmes in the Nations which are currently about 3 minutes longer than in the Regions.
NW
nwtv2003
Inspector Sands posted:
Not necessarily, it would be possible to have the 6 o clock news and then an hour of 'Nationwide' style programme. After all that is what they used to do in the era of Nationwide/Sixty Minutes - tere was a news bulletin at 5:40 as well as Nationwide. But then there is an infinite number of diffrent programe formats they could do.


The Nationwide style scheduling could work, as when NW did go out, the schedule managed to fit all 3 programmes, Evening News at 5.40pm, Regional News at 5.55pm and then Nationwide at 6.25pm. I don't see anything wrong with having a Nationwide at 7.00pm or 6.55pm if they intended to go straight after the Regions end.

The Sixty Minutes style wasn't a good idea, they crammed it all in from 5.40pm to 6.40pm and as said it all looked the same, plus this method lasted less than a year.

For as long as Kerplunsky doesn't host it, this intended Nationwide sounds better than most of the shíte that goes out on BBC One at 7.00pm most nights.

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