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Moira Stuart - Dropped?

(March 2007)

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itsrobert Founding member
Anne MacKenzie Fan posted:
She was and still is an influencial woman and role model.

Many women, like myself, admire Moira for being a polished professional who encouraged many other woman to try their luck in a TV newsroom, which was at the time, predominantly a man's world.

Female presenters, such as Angela Rippon - even Anna Ford - did not advertise this as well as Moira. She also has encouraged many black women to reach for the stars.

She is seen as bubbly, cheery and does not take herself too seriously unlike many ego maniacs in today's TV newsrooms.

Moira also kept herself private - which is commendable and something of a rarity in today's mish mash of whether you are a journalist or a celebrity.


Very well said. Nothing more I can add to that - Moira went against all the conventions and made something of herself in a white, male dominated world.

Moz, your comments prove your immaturity. Lack of ambition? There wasn't much further she could go. She presented every bulletin except the Ten O'Clock News and became a household name. I challenge you to ask people who Moira and Natasha Kaplinsky are. I guarantee many, many more people will know of Moira.

As for your jab at Moira not having a degree in journalism (my personal opinion is that 30 years worth of on-the-job experience is worth a heck of a lot more than a flimsy piece of paper from some university) I can tell you that you would be very surprised at some other high profile news presenters who don't have any degree. I can't name them here, but they are high profile broadcasters working for major organisations.

Some of you are implying that newsreading is an easy job. You are very misguided. You may think you could do it, but it's very easy to say that. Imagine having to go on the air to millions of people tasked with presenting the news to them. There's the pressure not to make mistakes, you're constantly listening to the gallery where numerous people are talking both to you and each other all at once. There are running order changes during the programme for which you have to re-order your hard copy. You're listening for those as you're reading to camera. You also have to conduct an interview whilst doing all that: trying to keep on top of the interviewee's answers so you can formulate your next question while simultaneously listening to the gallery for changes, timings etc. It's just a tad harder than "reading an autocue"...
JO
Joe
Totally agree. In fact, many would struggle to even 'just read an autocue'!
SA
salfordjohn
Asa posted:
BBC WORLD posted:
Bump.

For someone with 2228 posts, you think you'd know that "bumping" posts isn't a good thing to do? If threads get archived, another one can easily be created if there's a need.


what does 'bump' mean??

Under what circumstances is it appropriate to respond in a thread with 'bump'?

is it just rude and discourtious?
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Steery
Does anyone think that this now makes it possible for Moira to be the new presenter of Five News, or is it not an avenue she'd go down?
JO
Joe
salfordjohn posted:
Asa posted:
BBC WORLD posted:
Bump.

For someone with 2228 posts, you think you'd know that "bumping" posts isn't a good thing to do? If threads get archived, another one can easily be created if there's a need.


what does 'bump' mean??

Under what circumstances is it appropriate to respond in a thread with 'bump'?

is it just rude and discourtious?


It just means bumping it to the top of the forum, for no reason. BBCWORLD wrote 'bump', but didn't add anything to the conversation. Therefore, it was a pointless post.
NG
noggin Founding member
itsrobert posted:
As for your jab at Moira not having a degree in journalism (my personal opinion is that 30 years worth of on-the-job experience is worth a heck of a lot more than a flimsy piece of paper from some university) I can tell you that you would be very surprised at some other high profile news presenters who don't have any degree. I can't name them here, but they are high profile broadcasters working for major organisations.

Some of you are implying that newsreading is an easy job. You are very misguided. You may think you could do it, but it's very easy to say that. Imagine having to go on the air to millions of people tasked with presenting the news to them. There's the pressure not to make mistakes, you're constantly listening to the gallery where numerous people are talking both to you and each other all at once. There are running order changes during the programme for which you have to re-order your hard copy. You're listening for those as you're reading to camera. You also have to conduct an interview whilst doing all that: trying to keep on top of the interviewee's answers so you can formulate your next question while simultaneously listening to the gallery for changes, timings etc. It's just a tad harder than "reading an autocue"...


Not disagreeing with that - though Moira's roles have seldom incorporated interviewing.

That is the key change that has happened in the TV News industry.

In the days of non-journalist "news readers" that was the role - reading the news, written by others. You had to do it clearly, intelligently, in a manner the audience could understand, whilst taking direction and keeping across the running order.

You didn't have to write the news, fact check it, keep across wire updates, brief yourself, or interview correspondents, cabinet ministers or members of the public. These days you do have to all of these to effectively front a network news bulletin or a continuous news channel.

The last real role for the "newsreader" on the BBC, other than reading Breakfast news updates, was presenting the Six O'Clock News before it was relaunched in the beige and red single-headed form in 1998 (or was it 1999?) That format had two presenters, one of whom did the bulk of the interviews, if there were any...

Moira has excellent presenting skills - and when you see her not newsreading her character, warmth and sense of humour really shine. I hope future productions use her effectively in new roles on TV - our screens would be poorer without her.
NE
Newsroom
itsrobert posted:
Anne MacKenzie Fan posted:
She was and still is an influencial woman and role model.

Many women, like myself, admire Moira for being a polished professional who encouraged many other woman to try their luck in a TV newsroom, which was at the time, predominantly a man's world.

Female presenters, such as Angela Rippon - even Anna Ford - did not advertise this as well as Moira. She also has encouraged many black women to reach for the stars.

She is seen as bubbly, cheery and does not take herself too seriously unlike many ego maniacs in today's TV newsrooms.

Moira also kept herself private - which is commendable and something of a rarity in today's mish mash of whether you are a journalist or a celebrity.


Very well said. Nothing more I can add to that - Moira went against all the conventions and made something of herself in a white, male dominated world.

Moz, your comments prove your immaturity. Lack of ambition? There wasn't much further she could go. She presented every bulletin except the Ten O'Clock News and became a household name. I challenge you to ask people who Moira and Natasha Kaplinsky are. I guarantee many, many more people will know of Moira.

As for your jab at Moira not having a degree in journalism (my personal opinion is that 30 years worth of on-the-job experience is worth a heck of a lot more than a flimsy piece of paper from some university) I can tell you that you would be very surprised at some other high profile news presenters who don't have any degree. I can't name them here, but they are high profile broadcasters working for major organisations.

Some of you are implying that newsreading is an easy job. You are very misguided. You may think you could do it, but it's very easy to say that. Imagine having to go on the air to millions of people tasked with presenting the news to them. There's the pressure not to make mistakes, you're constantly listening to the gallery where numerous people are talking both to you and each other all at once. There are running order changes during the programme for which you have to re-order your hard copy. You're listening for those as you're reading to camera. You also have to conduct an interview whilst doing all that: trying to keep on top of the interviewee's answers so you can formulate your next question while simultaneously listening to the gallery for changes, timings etc. It's just a tad harder than "reading an autocue"...


Loving your work Rob! Very Happy
MO
Moz
itsrobert posted:
Moz, your comments prove your immaturity.


Sorry, I shouldn't be allowed to have a different opinion than everyone else. That shows immaturity.

itsrobert posted:
As for your jab at Moira not having a degree in journalism (my personal opinion is that 30 years worth of on-the-job experience is worth a heck of a lot more than a flimsy piece of paper from some university) I can tell you that you would be very surprised at some other high profile news presenters who don't have any degree. I can't name them here, but they are high profile broadcasters working for major organisations.

Some of you are implying that newsreading is an easy job. You are very misguided....You also have to conduct an interview....


I didn't say she should get a degree. Never mentioned degrees. I meant something like an internal course at the BBC, but more importantly I meant that she should actually have gone out into the field to do some journalism, like all the other newsreaders have done.

As for interviews, I may be wrong but I didn't think Moira did interviews because she was the only person who wasn't a journalist.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
Moz posted:
itsrobert posted:
Moz, your comments prove your immaturity.


Sorry, I shouldn't be allowed to have a different opinion than everyone else. That shows immaturity.


Of course, everyone is entitled to an opinion. However, I think your opinion is based on immature thought. You've made generalised uneducated assumptions about Moira. That's what I find immature.
ST
STV Today
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/a76972/moira-stuart-britains-first-lady-of-news.html

A new piece on Digital Spy Moira for fans to view...
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Revitt
Anne MacKenzie Fan posted:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/a76972/moira-stuart-britains-first-lady-of-news.html

A new piece on Digital Spy Moira for fans to view...


I must admit, it's news to me about John Humphries' "advance" on Moira at the end of the Six once.
R2
r2ro
There's no real surprise that Moira's actually left. It is a shame as she was a talented newsreader but then again she's not presented on the BBC for ages anyway. I'm sure she will be in high demand by other news organisations.

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