The Newsroom

Miners Rescue - Chile

"WITH ME, TIM WILLCOX." (October 2010)

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WO
Worzel
[quote="Michael" pid="682554"]
There's three at the scene, so if FENIX2 (Spanish for Phoenix Rolling Eyes ) is unusable, they'll get FENIX1 or FENIX3.


It's bad enough with the correspondents spouting pidgin Spanish pronounciations that would make Andrew Sachs proud.


That comment made my day! Very Happy
WO
Worzel
Is that a different BBC News bed/theme under Tim just now
?

Theyre still not cueing Tim in properly!
MI
Michael
Is that a different BBC News bed/theme under Tim just now?


Was reminiscient of the News Special beds used in and around 9/11.
WO
Worzel
Is that a different BBC News bed/theme under Tim just now?


Was reminiscient of the News Special beds used in and around 9/11.


Yeah I thought that too, recorded a little bit of it.
WO
Worzel
Tim just said 'I'll get Maxine to pan down'... is that Maxine MaWhinney, I did hear she was a camera operator some time before she became a newsreader?
BR
breakingnews
Does anyone know if the miner with the mistresses has been rescued yet?

Edit, I just found out he's number 21. We're on 19 at the moment.
NG
noggin Founding member
Does anyone know how many live feeds the BBC News desks can take at any one time?

News desks are in offices. The news MCR area (SCAR) can take in many different feeds, although how many each gallery can take at a time I have no idea. It's not really relevant here as there can't be any more than 3 or 4 seperate feeds coming in from Chile


Though SCAR itself can now be controlled from an office...

The way BBC News works is that there are lots and lots of feeds coming into SCAR and CAR/CCA (BBC regional/national circuits, fibre circuits from the BT Tower, satellite downlink outputs, feeds from videophones and similar devices etc.) These are "packaged" up by SCAR onto a central router (so that the right comms feeds are associated with the sound and vision feeds) - though there are some permanent feeds as well (off air receivers, agency picture feeds etc. which don't need packaging) which can then be routed to destination OSs (outside sources) in each gallery, as well as to recording ports on the edit server and edit suites, via a central router, which is remotely controlled by the galleries and edit suites. There are intranet pages showing booking timetables, what is on which package etc. These are also available on the TV ringmains available on every journalist's desk.

Each gallery will have between 6 and 10 OSs in normal circumstances - though they may also have permanent and separate feeds of APTN, REUTERS, EVN etc. (which don't require comms) in addition that can be routed separately to the OSs. Some of these OSs are routinely used for things like BBC London and a BBC Weather studio, and they can also be used for injects from edit suites when the final edited item hasn't been transferred to the playout servers.

For major events there are both hub areas as well as the possibility of using separate galleries to pre-switch some feeds.
WO
Worzel
Does anyone know how many live feeds the BBC News desks can take at any one time?

News desks are in offices. The news MCR area (SCAR) can take in many different feeds, although how many each gallery can take at a time I have no idea. It's not really relevant here as there can't be any more than 3 or 4 seperate feeds coming in from Chile


Though SCAR itself can now be controlled from an office...

The way BBC News works is that there are lots and lots of feeds coming into SCAR and CAR/CCA (BBC regional/national circuits, fibre circuits from the BT Tower, satellite downlink outputs, feeds from videophones and similar devices etc.) These are "packaged" up by SCAR onto a central router (so that the right comms feeds are associated with the sound and vision feeds) - though there are some permanent feeds as well (off air receivers, agency picture feeds etc. which don't need packaging) which can then be routed to destination OSs (outside sources) in each gallery, as well as to recording ports on the edit server and edit suites, via a central router, which is remotely controlled by the galleries and edit suites. There are intranet pages showing booking timetables, what is on which package etc. These are also available on the TV ringmains available on every journalist's desk.

Each gallery will have between 6 and 10 OSs in normal circumstances - though they may also have permanent and separate feeds of APTN, REUTERS, EVN etc. (which don't require comms) in addition that can be routed separately to the OSs. Some of these OSs are routinely used for things like BBC London and a BBC Weather studio, and they can also be used for injects from edit suites when the final edited item hasn't been transferred to the playout servers.

For major events there are both hub areas as well as the possibility of using separate galleries to pre-switch some feeds.


Must be a bit of a problem if the SCAR routing crashes!
WO
Worzel
My theory for tonight on BBC NC etc...

Come 10pm will be interesting. I would assume that it would make sense to do what they did last night and stick the solo News channel presenter with the BBC World News presenter and simulcast World on the News channel again. This would allow the BBC News at Ten to go out on BBC1 while BBC NC is with World.

Andrew Wilson on SKY News just said that over a Billion people are watching the events Worldwide - its an event on a Massive scale, biggest of the year - on a par with the Haiti Earthquake coverage?
GE
thegeek Founding member
Ta for that detailed explanation, noggin - clearly more of an expert on the north end of TVC than me Smile

Must be a bit of a problem if the SCAR routing crashes!
While it's not a word that BBC people like to hear, there's a lot of redundancy built in to the BBC's routing systems. Routers themselves are fairly dumb, and don't tend to go wrong, but the control systems are generally PC-based, so there will be at least dual redundancy on each device controller, and lots and lots of computers which can send instructions to them.


Channel 4 News have been dipping into Chile coverage this evening -and Jon Snow's been getting very excited. Midway through commentating on the pictures of a miner being loaded into the cage, he sort of broke, and started exclaiming how amazing it all is, seeing live pictures from so far below the surface, and people getting out alive. Which I suppose it is - I've found myself getting a bit desensitised by the wall-to-wall coverage, and I've purposefully been avoiding it for most of the day.
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Worzel
Tim Willcox appearing to give Andrew Wilson from Sky News a wave as he walks past their camera area. Wink

Has Andrew Wilson slept at all today, if so who was anchoring in his place... Emma Hurd?

Does anyone know how many pooled pictures are currently available from Chile?
GE
thegeek Founding member
Does anyone know how many pooled pictures are currently available from Chile?
I thought it was just the World Feed provided by Chilean Government?

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