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Mark Thompson: Britain needs a Fox News

Wibble (December 2010)

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PE
Pete Founding member
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/17/mark-thompson-bbc-fox-news

Quote:
Mark Thompson, the BBC's director general, said British broadcasters should be free to launch an equivalent to Fox News in the UK because existing rules to guarantee impartiality in television were becoming outdated in the era of the internet.

Thompson, while speaking at a Whitehall seminar on impartiality in broadcasting, said that as the distinction between the web and television collapses, it no longer makes sense for public service broadcasters such as the BBC, ITV and Channel 4, to have a "monopoly" over the airwaves.

The director general said: "There was a logic in allowing impartial broadcasters to have a monopoly of the broadcasting space. But in the future, maybe there should be a broad range of choices? Why shouldn't the public be able to see and hear, as well as read, a range of opinionated journalism and then make up their own mind what they think about it?

"The BBC and Channel 4 have a history of clearly labelled polemical programmes. But why not entire polemical channels which have got stronger opinions? I find the argument persuasive."

So unexpected was Thompson's intervention that his remarks caught some of the BBC's best known journalists unawares. Nick Robinson, the BBC's political editor, who chaired the debate on Thursday evening, admitted the DG's plea for regulatory liberalisation had "slightly taken me by surprise".

Thompson said that the BBC News services would remain impartial, but he added that views regarded as "extreme" could and should be broadcast by the BBC even within the current rules on impartiality.

The BBC had been, historically, "weak and nervous" about airing debates about immigration and Europe, he said – but added that he believed the public broadcaster had forced the main parties to discuss immigration during the 2010 election campaign. He promised that there would be more space for "extreme and radical perspectives" on the BBC, which one day could become common views.

In the US, strong opinion had won the ratings battle, with the right-wing Fox News getting a larger audience than CNN, Thompson said. But that needn't be replicated in Britain. "I don't believe that necessarily means you get the dire consequences that some people see in America. Having a broader range of channels would actually strengthen that enduring tradition of impartial journalism across BBC, ITN and Channel 4. They would continue to be trusted.


I feel the foolishness of this is summed up in a magnificent quote by Kelvin MacKenzie, lord of dross:

Quote:
Kelvin MacKenzie, the former editor of the Sun, also on the seminar panel, said he should be able to host a debate about immigration or Britain pulling out of Europe without having to present a countervailing point of view.


Kelvin, if you don't have an opposing view, its not a debate.
Last edited by Pete on 18 December 2010 1:31pm - 2 times in total
MI
Michael
Quote:
Kelvin MacKenzie, the former editor of the Sun, also on the seminar panel, said he should be able to host a debate about immigration or Britain pulling out of Europe without having to present a countervailing point of view.


Fair enough... so similarly, we should be able to host a debate about climate change and gay rights without having to present an opposing view. Wonder what KMacK would think about that, given that BBC News has twice as much audience share than Sky?
CH
chris
I can't see how a UK Fox News would benefit broadcasting whatsoever. Britain is highly regarded with broadcasting and journalistic standards with the BBC and I'd worry such a channel would dwindle that reputation.
WE
Westy2
Britain needs a Fox News?

No we don't. Sky News is bad enough!

Up the Beeb!
NG
noggin Founding member
I can see Thompson's argument academically and intellectually. However in reality I think it would be dreadful.

However I think that the existing broadcasters need to think carefully about what impartiality means?

Is having a debate between two extremists but ignoring moderates still impartial?

Does being impartial mean always having to put a tiny minority view every time you cover something that the majority of respected experts accept as true?

It's not an easy one. However I think that there have to be broadcasting standards - and if we go down Thompson's route there has to be a clear distinction between the presentation of factual reporting and presenation of personal opinion.
JC
JonathanC
Yes, yes we do.

http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/breaking-study-finds-fox-news-viewers-are-the-most-misinformed.php?ref=fpa

Quote:
To perhaps nobody's surprise, a study released this week finds that Fox News viewers are the most misinformed of any news consumers.

The University of Maryland study, called "Misinformation and the 2010 Election," looked at "variations in misinformation by exposure to news sources," among other things, and specifically newspapers and news magazines (in print and online), network TV news broadcasts, NPR and PBS, Fox News, MSNBC, and CNN.

..

The study also found that as exposure to Fox News increased, so did the misinformation.


Maybe not then.

Not all the news channels were squeaky clean, but Fox worse by far.
Last edited by JonathanC on 18 December 2010 5:00pm
JJ
jjne
This is actually very clever.

By allowing Murdoch to provide the service he'd undoubtedly prefer Sky News to be, we'd be providing him with the rope he needs to hang himself.

The need for a PSB broadcaster would come through loud and clear. We've been needing a "crap" channel for years, so we have something to compare PSB with.
MD
mdtauk
Mark Thompson is fast proving how wrong he is as DG of the BBC...
CH
Chie
Absolutely out of the question. Now would be the most dangerous time in decades to start allowing political partisanship on television. It is an utterly reckless thing of Mark Thompson to suggest. Scrapping impartiality rules would open up the airwaves for communists to propagate their miserable, totalitarian ideal, which poses a very real threat across Europe today. Amid our eagerness to ensure that fascism can never take hold again the perils of communism have been relatively overlooked and as such it would be far easier to start rolling down that road than it would the road to anything resembling fascism.

You can forget it, Mr. Thompson; it's not happening on my watch.
UK
ukjds
jjne posted:
We've been needing a "crap" channel for years, so we have something to compare PSB with.


Isn't that what ITV is for?
JO
Joe
Chie posted:
Absolutely out of the question. Now would be the most dangerous time in decades to start allowing political partisanship on television. It is an utterly reckless thing of Mark Thompson to suggest. Scrapping impartiality rules would open up the airwaves for communists to propagate their miserable, totalitarian ideal, which poses a very real threat across Europe today. Amid our eagerness to ensure that fascism can never take hold again the perils of communism have been relatively overlooked and as such it would be far easier to start rolling down that road than it would the road to anything resembling fascism.


Laughing

Chie posted:
You can forget it, Mr. Thompson; it's not happening on my watch.


What are you going to do?
JO
Joe
Chie posted:
Absolutely out of the question. Now would be the most dangerous time in decades to start allowing political partisanship on television. It is an utterly reckless thing of Mark Thompson to suggest. Scrapping impartiality rules would open up the airwaves for communists to propagate their miserable, totalitarian ideal, which poses a very real threat across Europe today. Amid our eagerness to ensure that fascism can never take hold again the perils of communism have been relatively overlooked and as such it would be far easier to start rolling down that road than it would the road to anything resembling fascism.


Laughing


Sorry, I really shouldn't laugh, but really, what else can I do? That's one of the oddest things I've read in a while.

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