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Mark Hobson arrest - Sky news

(July 2004)

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DU
Dunedin
c@t posted:
Without wanting to say "I feel vinidicated" by that Guardian report (oops, I just did)... I do really wonder why people come on here and spout total and utter tosh about News 24's coverage of some events.


Breaking News:
Guardian in BBC-bashing shock

Really, how MediaGuardian can be taken as "vindication" is beyond me...they have a well observed agenda against the BBC and take every opportunity (however small) to belittle it.

Wouldn't you just love BBC online to give an in-depth summary of the falling sales of the Guardian newspaper month on month. It's truly tragic reading.
SE
Square Eyes Founding member
ITV News had Calendar's John Hill on the scene before 6pm, albeit only on the phone. You'd have thought that the BBC & ITV would have had cameras and journos on standby from their regional centres in the area, and should in theory be able to beat Sky to it.
MA
Marcher
c@t posted:
Kirky Cheshire posted:
Sky can misreport something and get away with it, where as the BBC can't.


Oh clear off.

Do you think Sky would've ''got away with'' reporting incorrectly that Hobson had been arrested?

It's a wonder your name isn't Kirby, you seem to have your head in the clouds.


Most people would shrug their shoulders and say 'ah well' and Sky would start covering it up as rumours, like every news channel tries to do every time they are wrong.
:-(
A former member
c@t posted:

Oh, and homosexual I may be, but a MALE I remain.


Too much Information.
SP
Sput
chiguy33 posted:
c@t posted:

Oh, and homosexual I may be, but a MALE I remain.


Too much Information.


Nah, too much information would be the size of his tadger, which he can answer in PM. In fact that's just barely enough information!

Obviously though, admitting you're gay and male is clearly obscene and should be stopped under penalty of burning...

[tsk]
CA
cat
chiguy33 posted:
c@t posted:

Oh, and homosexual I may be, but a MALE I remain.


Too much Information.


I wonder, Chiguy, whether it would have discouraged you from sending me a message many months back telling me I needed ''a big black guy to come round and sort me out''?

Actually, the intention was to prevent Timmy from calling me a female, but I thought i'd slip that in, so to speak.

Tsunami: Why can you NEVER accept that sometimes News 24 does absolutely appalingly at covering events. Sometimes it does very well, but most of the time not. It is increadibly tedious to hear you rattle on about how everyone hates the BBC, and use this as some sort of feeble defence of the corporation, when it is acknowledged by all to be guilty as charged. It's remarkable: I doubt most BBC people would recognise most of the comments you make. You are a really very pointless contributor here.
LU
luke-h
Well, avoiding all the BBC bashing, may I just say that I am sooo glad that Mark Hobson has been caught. I actually live in Camblesforth, and the flat where Claire and Diane Sanderson were murdered is literally 50m away from where I am sitting. I can see it from my window.

This event has been keeping everyone in the village under a constant state of shock, nervousness and depression. Maybe now, the tone will be slightly lighter.

May I just take this time to express my deepest sympathy to the familys of the Sandersons and of Mr. And Mrs. Britton. I cannot imagine how they must be feeling at this time.
DU
Dunedin
c@t posted:
Tsunami: Why can you NEVER accept that sometimes News 24 does absolutely appalingly at covering events. Sometimes it does very well, but most of the time not. It is increadibly tedious to hear you rattle on about how everyone hates the BBC, and use this as some sort of feeble defence of the corporation, when it is acknowledged by all to be guilty as charged. It's remarkable: I doubt most BBC people would recognise most of the comments you make. You are a really very pointless contributor here.


I merely pointed out that the article from MediaGuardian doesn't "vindicate" your post earlier in the thread- it is actually factually incorrect. Of course sometimes Sky "beat" the BBC and then the BBC "beat" Sky, and it's really quite dull to score the news channels on this basis. Do Media Guardian run a report every time one news channels "beats" the other by half an hour? Do they run stories blasting Sky News when BBC News set the nationwide agenda with programs like "The Secret Agent".

Were MediaGuardian so high in praise of BBC and ITV news during the the Glasgow fire where Sky weren't just an hour or so behind the competition, but nearly 6 hours late? No.

Yet pictures of a police van leaving an area with speculation about who is in it justifies such an article. Compared to a big photogenic fire. Yes c@t, media guardian play it straight down the middle all the time.

So News 24 is "guilty as charged". Brilliant- despite the fact most posters in this thread disagree with you, and News 24 has recently overtaken Sky News in audience reach (a fact unsurprisingly diluted to 'drawn level' in the media guardian article).

Keep believing that for Sky news "when it comes to the crunch they still can't be beaten", but the fact is that they so regularly are. And when they can't "beat" the opposition to coverage, they just ignore it (generally news not from the UK). They still haven't successfully worked out how to analyse the news and provide depth to their coverage- so short of when they're chasing police cars, the channel is dull beyond belief and highly repetitive.
:-(
A former member
luke-h posted:
May I just take this time to express my deepest sympathy to the familys of the Sandersons and of Mr. And Mrs. Britton. I cannot imagine how they must be feeling at this time.


I couldn't agree more, I actually live just down the road in Carlton, its amazing such horrid events can happen so close to where you are.

Still, it is beyond me how anyone can say News24 provides better coverage of breaking news than SKY. Thats not to say SKY is better than N24 overall, but when it comes to breaking stories well SKY are the best without doubt.
MO
Moz
I was very impressed with the Sky News coverage, News 24 was left wanting.

It's very easy for the BBC to say, "We're not playing that game, we want comfirmation first" but that isn't keeping the viewers informed, and is a cop-out.

I think the BBC should abandon their policy and go for all out getting breaking news first. Qualify it all they want, make it clear that they are just initial reports, not verified, but get us the news first.

At the end of the day, it's the failure of the reporters. Sky obviously did some donkey work, they had an interview with an eye witness really quickly because they were there - the BBC were at York Police HQ.

Have we had a poll on this topic? I like polls - I'll do one now!
LU
luke-h
WILSONC posted:
luke-h posted:
May I just take this time to express my deepest sympathy to the familys of the Sandersons and of Mr. And Mrs. Britton. I cannot imagine how they must be feeling at this time.


I couldn't agree more, I actually live just down the road in Carlton, its amazing such horrid events can happen so close to where you are.


You live in Carlton?!? Smile I know a few people from there, kids my own age mind, but people all the same. Joe Backhouse, Liam M, Mathew Aspinall...

If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?
BI
Bigted
Sky did get it first, but in their haste to get eyewitness reports on the phone they kept having people on live saying that they "caught the murderer ". So libel city for Sky. The BBC in the clear.

It was fun watching both, though.

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