Freedom of speach, is one of those areas where Tony Blair is slowly gaining his handbag, but we dont have police beating protestors, or strikers for fulfilling their rites.
Although heaven forbid you were to walk through a tube station looking slightly shifty, eh?
Thats the fault of the police which have had years of implicit racism throughout the tory years, not a result of the government, and nor were the tories to blaim for racism in the police at their time (however they had no problem demonizing the working classes, or those without comfortable finances)
Working classes weren't demonised! You are gross ly exaggerating a hell of a lot here, and to be honest all I can think is... if you had been in power at the time, what would
you
have done differently? As I said earlier, Thatcher is not the evil woman that people would have you believe, everything she did was for the benefit of the country.
Working classes weren't demonised! You are gross ly exaggerating a hell of a lot here, and to be honest all I can think is... if you had been in power at the time, what would
you
have done differently? As I said earlier, Thatcher is not the evil woman that people would have you believe, everything she did was for the benefit of the country.
There is that phrase again, Blair said war in Iraq was for the good of the country, doesn't mean its true.
I cant think of a single lasting legacy which benefits society... And from the opinions of my family, many of them from older generations, they felt demonized, both because of their class, and partly because we are from the Republic of Ireland, and the Irish were persecuted in those days.
Alot of my family were and are still in Manchester, which had a hell of a lot of problems in Maggie's day, especially Moss Side, less than a mile from my great aunt's place.
I don't really want to get involved in a political debate on a TV Forum, but I don't feel that I can let this go. IMO it would be refreshing to see someone lead this country with the commitment, honesty and conviction that Margaret Thatcher did. She was a strong leader, who brought this country (albeit kicking and screaming) through the darkest times of the Cold War and global recession. She tackled the sky-high inflation that was allowed to take hold under the Labour government of the 1970s. She modernised this country's economy and laid the foundations for the strong economic position we find ourselves in today.
This is my view. I appreciate that others will not agree, and that is the nature of politics. However, whatever you might say now it was the votes of the British electorate that kept Mrs Thatcher in power. They had three opportunities to get rid of her - had she really been the terrible Prime Minister that some choose to depict her as now, surely the electorate would have kicked her out.
In any case, whatever your political views is it really fair to effectively wish someone dead (or indeed to celebrate when they do pass away) simply because you disagree with you? I don't think so.
Saddam, was liked by many, but am I wrong to wish him dead, 'I dont think so...'
I'm not sure the two are really comparable - I don't remember Mrs T committing mass murder or, indeed, any serious human rights atrocities. Perhaps my memory escapes me.
You were what, 4 or 5 years old when Thatcher left office in 1990. I don't even think you remember her time in power. You're probably just parroting what your socialist parents have spouted out to you over the years.
Do some proper reasearch into your claims, otherwise shut up and stick your head back up your anus.
You were what, 4 or 5 years old when Thatcher left office in 1990. I don't even think you remember her time in power. You're probably just parroting what your socialist parents have spouted out to you over the years.
Do some proper reasearch into your claims, otherwise shut up and stick your head back up your anus.
And how old were you, exactly, in 1990? 7? 8? Some of us actually had the misfortune to live part of our working lives under her rule, and don't need to rely on research.
Oh, and Turnbull & Williams, I would say that the darkest times of the Cold War were in the sixties - Cuba Missile Crisis etc - hardly during the eighties.
Would the right honourable gentlemen be aware that this place is for discussing Television news presentation and isn't a place for mainly political discussion. So he hearby propose that this thread be locked.
All those in favour say aie... ...Aie!
All those against... ...nobody against, motion carried.