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Look North: North East and Cumbria

(April 2008)

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South Today
Is there last image where the name appears meant to be the most famous/ iconic landmark of the particular region??
ID
Inflatable Dartboard
South Today posted:
Is there last image where the name appears meant to be the most famous/ iconic landmark of the particular region??


I would think that their last image has to at least be from the "focal" town/city of the region* (which is generally the same place as where the studios are). Whether the image is the "most iconic" thing in either that town/city or the region as a whole, is debatable.

(* Presumably not necessarily so in the case of Look East's wind turbines(?), which seems a very odd choice of end image)

For example, Midlands Today's endcap shows Birmingham Town Hall, which is a white-ish building with that sort of pseudo-Roman look with columns etc. This looks exactly like many other Town Halls that I can think of, so isn't particularly distinctive. Other Birmingham views, such as the Selfridges/Bull Ring/St Martin's Church area are more iconic.

Arguably, despite Birmingham being the most major settlement in the West Midlands Region, a landmark such as the Ironbridge in Shropshire is a more iconic symbol than anything in Birmingham.

I'm not sure the South of England region has one single "focal" town/city, but it's perhaps more of a contest between Southampton and Portsmouth (?). But Southampton presumably doesn't have any landmark that can quite compete with the Spinnaker (sp?) Tower for "iconic-ness"?
MI
m_in_m
Inflatable Dartboard posted:
South Today posted:
Is there last image where the name appears meant to be the most famous/ iconic landmark of the particular region??


I would think that their last image has to at least be from the "focal" town/city of the region* (which is generally the same place as where the studios are). Whether the image is the "most iconic" thing in either that town/city or the region as a whole, is debatable.

(* Presumably not necessarily so in the case of Look East's wind turbines(?), which seems a very odd choice of end image)

For example, Midlands Today's endcap shows Birmingham Town Hall, which is a white-ish building with that sort of pseudo-Roman look with columns etc. This looks exactly like many other Town Halls that I can think of, so isn't particularly distinctive. Other Birmingham views, such as the Selfridges/Bull Ring/St Martin's Church area are more iconic.

Arguably, despite Birmingham being the most major settlement in the West Midlands Region, a landmark such as the Ironbridge in Shropshire is a more iconic symbol than anything in Birmingham.

I'm not sure the South of England region has one single "focal" town/city, but it's perhaps more of a contest between Southampton and Portsmouth (?). But Southampton presumably doesn't have any landmark that can quite compete with the Spinnaker (sp?) Tower for "iconic-ness"?


Maybe Look East was concerned that for the opening titles to be focused on Norwich would not be welcomed considering the Forum was used for a long time after they moved there. Also I'm not sure that Cambridge has separate titles; therefore the end landmark needs to actually be a little more generic.
GR
gregmc
Inflatable Dartboard posted:
South Today posted:
Is there last image where the name appears meant to be the most famous/ iconic landmark of the particular region??


I would think that their last image has to at least be from the "focal" town/city of the region* (which is generally the same place as where the studios are). Whether the image is the "most iconic" thing in either that town/city or the region as a whole, is debatable.

(* Presumably not necessarily so in the case of Look East's wind turbines(?), which seems a very odd choice of end image)

For example, Midlands Today's endcap shows Birmingham Town Hall, which is a white-ish building with that sort of pseudo-Roman look with columns etc. This looks exactly like many other Town Halls that I can think of, so isn't particularly distinctive. Other Birmingham views, such as the Selfridges/Bull Ring/St Martin's Church area are more iconic.

Arguably, despite Birmingham being the most major settlement in the West Midlands Region, a landmark such as the Ironbridge in Shropshire is a more iconic symbol than anything in Birmingham.

I'm not sure the South of England region has one single "focal" town/city, but it's perhaps more of a contest between Southampton and Portsmouth (?). But Southampton presumably doesn't have any landmark that can quite compete with the Spinnaker (sp?) Tower for "iconic-ness"?


Nick Owen talked about why BBC Midlands Today chose to have the Birmingham Town Hall as the final shot, and that was because it has recently been refurbished, so its going to be part of the regions future as a venue, as well as holding many historical stories from the regions past. I'm sure a decision similar to this was made by all regions about the images to appear in their title sequence.
MI
m_in_m
gregmc posted:
Inflatable Dartboard posted:
South Today posted:
Is there last image where the name appears meant to be the most famous/ iconic landmark of the particular region??


I would think that their last image has to at least be from the "focal" town/city of the region* (which is generally the same place as where the studios are). Whether the image is the "most iconic" thing in either that town/city or the region as a whole, is debatable.

(* Presumably not necessarily so in the case of Look East's wind turbines(?), which seems a very odd choice of end image)

For example, Midlands Today's endcap shows Birmingham Town Hall, which is a white-ish building with that sort of pseudo-Roman look with columns etc. This looks exactly like many other Town Halls that I can think of, so isn't particularly distinctive. Other Birmingham views, such as the Selfridges/Bull Ring/St Martin's Church area are more iconic.

Arguably, despite Birmingham being the most major settlement in the West Midlands Region, a landmark such as the Ironbridge in Shropshire is a more iconic symbol than anything in Birmingham.

I'm not sure the South of England region has one single "focal" town/city, but it's perhaps more of a contest between Southampton and Portsmouth (?). But Southampton presumably doesn't have any landmark that can quite compete with the Spinnaker (sp?) Tower for "iconic-ness"?


Nick Owen talked about why BBC Midlands Today chose to have the Birmingham Town Hall as the final shot, and that was because it has recently been refurbished, so its going to be part of the regions future as a venue, as well as holding many historical stories from the regions past. I'm sure a decision similar to this was made by all regions about the images to appear in their title sequence.


That would link into the use of the wind turbines - the debate about further wind turbine sites in the region, and their necessity in energy production.
LO
looknorth
I dont like the look north titles at all. Evil or Very Mad
AN
Andrew Founding member
South Today posted:
Is there last image where the name appears meant to be the most famous/ iconic landmark of the particular region??

I get the feeling that looking at the place names chosen and the images chosen, the titles were very much designed by London
LO
looknorth
The first shot in the looknorth titles are of someone looking out of the baltic window Confused
And like I have said previously I think they along with LDN should have kept the origional 2008 (1999) music as the titles dont seem to go well with the new audio-they will probably have to alter that aswell.
PC
Philip Cobbold
Andrew posted:
South Today posted:
Is there last image where the name appears meant to be the most famous/ iconic landmark of the particular region??

I get the feeling that looking at the place names chosen and the images chosen, the titles were very much designed by London

Why is London said as though it's a dirty word?
SP
Spencer
m_in_m posted:
Maybe Look East was concerned that for the opening titles to be focused on Norwich would not be welcomed considering the Forum was used for a long time after they moved there. Also I'm not sure that Cambridge has separate titles; therefore the end landmark needs to actually be a little more generic.


Likewise, Look North (Leeds) ends on a shot of the Yorkshire Wheel in York, rather than any Leeds landmark. They always seem to try not to appear Leeds focused, as it doesn't go down well in other parts of the region, especially in Sheffield and Bradford. I guess York is more politically neutral in that respect.
ST
Steve Founding member
Andrew posted:
South Today posted:
Is there last image where the name appears meant to be the most famous/ iconic landmark of the particular region??

I get the feeling that looking at the place names chosen and the images chosen, the titles were very much designed by London


Actually, no - the locations were chosen in the regions.
LO
looknorth
alarsne53 posted:
BBCMIDSTODAY posted:
alarsne53 posted:
looknorth posted:
Primetime posted:
The last relaunch was a missed chance to update the set. They could have at least dictched the 1999 desk, and replaced it with a cirular red one. And is they're any need to see cables running from the wall to the desk on the tight wideshot?

They're still missing the full DOG on the headlines / coming up strap at the start of the 6.30 programme. And finally.. theirs a right mish-mash of headline beds being used.


They seem to be using a mish mash of titles aswell like I said above one set with music IDENTICALL to the 1999 set the other prety much the same but with the old skweeky bits taken out.


The 1999 remix has afaik been dropped. London used it for 1 or 2 days, i assume look north did the same. Everytime I have watched online it now has the theme used in every other region.
youve lost me



Sigh, I think we have been over this before but hey here we go again!

Look North NE&C and BBC London used the following theme at the rebrand:

http://www.tvradiobits.co.uk/news/LDN08.rm


They have both now since changed to the theme used in every other region, which can now been seen on this updated page:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7349107.stm

However the hold used at the end of the titles has changed in London to the one used on the national news titles.


And idea why they decided to change at the last second?
for what the difference is the need not have botherd.

And looks like theres been a last min problem as jeff brown has done the full intro to the show and appears to be presenting all of it tonight. Not bad for a sports presenter.

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