London Tower Block Fire

Well, I don't doubt that everyone is taking part in this discussion with the utmost good faith, but some posts are in danger in straying into "let's try and sort this out", which is not the role of the forum. There may be points to be made about what the broadcasters are reporting and how it compares to the line the authorities are putting out, but it sounds in part as if we're hoping to solve the issue on here. I'm sure there's also a great danger of this thread straying into potential libel.

I guess there might be a value in saying "oh, the BBC are reporting this about the fire, but that contradicts something else has been said", but to me, some of these posts sound too much like "we need to find out who is right". We don't. We are woefully unsuited to the task. Other, more qualified people will do that.

There a few thread like that in this section, if thats the case. I think we should have a ruling on this to clear up the matter.

One thing I think many of us have learned is that North Kensington actually exists. Up to now Kensington was only known for the posh bit, or the bit you see on the 9 & 10 bus

Do the locals actually identify it as North Kensington or is it only bing called that because it's the northern part of the Kensington council area.

I think it's just common sense. The issue here is that you made the same point multiple times, asking a question we couldn't possibly answer, and that doesn't help the flow of the thread - especially when it means the thread then becomes about the posts themselves.

I do think there is a place to discuss journalism here - that formed much of the discussion about the News at Ten revamp, although arguably that was about how journalism was presented. Frankly at the moment presentation alone isn't interesting enough to sustain the forum.

Any discussion about the tower itself and the cladding and other issues would be better at this excellent and interesting thread at Skyscrapercity.com:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=2007285

I wouldn't go there to discuss BBC 2 idents, but it's the place for everything building related

Well, indeed, and indeed the point of the revamp of News at Ten was to do more original journalism, and to move away from more traditional methods of reporting and more towards authored pieces and long-form investigations, and it's absolutely fine and relevant on this forum to debate the value of that, its strength and weaknesses within the format and so on, and it's something we can all discuss and contribute to because we all have knowledge and experience of watching TV news and as the audience we can all say what we think is good or bad about it. Indeed, the presentation is driven by the style of the journalism, so the two are inexorably linked,

What I don't think we can discuss in this context is whether we think the journalism is correct, because we simply don't know, and any kind of attempt to seemingly "solve" it, is at best unhelpful and at worst rather distasteful. As Brekkie says, it's basic common sense. If you think you have a lead, tell the authorities, not us.

I think BBC1 just went to the silence in between programme while BBC2 extended the news channel by few minutes to cover it. I presume this morning also respected the silence.

Yes but this time no ITV News involved.

Panorama episode tonight BBC1 8.30

VD show and sky have been, and still are showing live broadcast of the statements to the house over the enquire with the PM etc.

Turns out it was the cladding.

The story has taken a twist: It's become a national scandal going by sky news words.

* It seems the cladding has been used on non social housing, Ie Hotels.
* A council in London wanted better cladding that what was used, and thus legal advice is on the cards.

For that reason Newsnight, Daily and Sunday Politics and it seems the news channels are now doing special reports on alot of blocks. As the story moves on the news channels are widening their remit on this story.

Hopeful this will not cause too much trouble for readers. ?

News channels and programmes reporting on the news. Whatever next!