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London Tower Block Fire

(June 2017)

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MA
Markymark


Not forgetting Buncefield.


I don't think anybody died at that though, according to Wiki 43 injuries, 2 serious ?

Would have been very different, if it had been during 'office hours' of course.
Last edited by Markymark on 15 June 2017 11:20am
WH
Whataday Founding member
I have to throw in my tuppence worth regarding Victoria Derbyshire's handling of this tragedy, and a few other brief thoughts.

I absolutely congratulate her on allowing those affected to say how they actually FEEL - not just about the incident itself, but about the general injustice in society which they feel is a fundamental part of this story. Her interviews with the gentleman with colourful language yesterday, and with the lady who talked about 'revenge' today were very telling of the anger felt by many sections of our communities. Whether their opinions are justified or not, it's how they feel - and it's that 'perception' which is perhaps the biggest problem faced in our society. Many other journalists would have stopped these interviews of placed caveats on their opinions. Victoria didn't, and I think that has to be commended in these circumstances.


I don't agree at all. It is one thing to handle the aftermath of a tragedy in this way, but yesterday morning it was still a developing story. The building was still burning and emotions were all over the place. The sort of interviews we saw yesterday would have been more appropriate over the next few days.

Notwithstanding your view on the above, Victoria struggled through what was essentially live breaking news once again and it made BBC News' output look amateurish in comparison to Piers and Susanna on ITV.
NG
noggin Founding member
I have to throw in my tuppence worth regarding Victoria Derbyshire's handling of this tragedy, and a few other brief thoughts.

I absolutely congratulate her on allowing those affected to say how they actually FEEL - not just about the incident itself, but about the general injustice in society which they feel is a fundamental part of this story. Her interviews with the gentleman with colourful language yesterday, and with the lady who talked about 'revenge' today were very telling of the anger felt by many sections of our communities. Whether their opinions are justified or not, it's how they feel - and it's that 'perception' which is perhaps the biggest problem faced in our society. Many other journalists would have stopped these interviews of placed caveats on their opinions. Victoria didn't, and I think that has to be commended in these circumstances.


I don't agree at all. It is one thing to handle the aftermath of a tragedy in this way, but yesterday morning it was still a developing story. The building was still burning and emotions were all over the place. The sort of interviews we saw yesterday would have been more appropriate over the next few days.


I'm not sure I totally agree. I think if you wait until days later, you are telling a different story. It's an area where print journalism (and sometimes radio) usually does a better job than TV. I'm not a huge Derbyshire fan (I found her radio show annoying), but I think her approach yesterday and today was a good way of telling the story of the feelings within the community, rather than just straight factual reporting. Both have a place I think. Certainly I've seen interviews and heard stories I wouldn't have heard on other TV outlets - and I think that's not a bad thing.

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Notwithstanding your view on the above, Victoria struggled through what was essentially live breaking news once again and it made BBC News' output look amateurish in comparison to Piers and Susanna on ITV.


Yes - her technical abilities at coping with presenting whilst getting new information via talkback is clearly an issue - but that isn't the only skill required.

As for Piers and Susannah - can't compare. I seldom watch GMB.
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A former member
Are people going to complain about Ben Brown now? IF not then most people on here are just a butch of VD haters.
WH
Whataday Founding member
I don't hate her. I hate very few people. I just don't think she's very good at handling breaking news, which is a disadvantage when you have a two hour slot on the UK's leading news channel.
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JamesLaverty1925
Think Sophie Raworth's soundcheck was just heard accidentally
SJ
sjhoward
Jon posted:
I am compassionate towards the great loss of life and I'm sorry this has happened, but is there nothing else to report on? Rolling Eyes

That's not how TV news works. If it's a massive story it becomes all the news get over it.


I think this is a perfectly legitimate thing to raise. There's not a paper on the newsstand nor a reputable news site on the web that hasn't covered dozens of other stories in the last 24hrs, some of them in quite a bit of detail.

It's absolutely reasonable to ask why broadcast media tends (with exceptions) to ignore the bulk of the other news when a big story - whatever that might be - dominates. If everybody just "got over it" because of "how TV news works", there would be no experimentation or innovation!
LL
London Lite Founding member
I don't hate her. I hate very few people. I just don't think she's very good at handling breaking news, which is a disadvantage when you have a two hour slot on the UK's leading news channel.


Derbyshire's delivery is perfectly fine for Radio 5 Live where that type of interview works perfectly fine in picturing the scene for radio listeners. On a breaking news channel, it's important to establish the facts first.

LBC and Radio 5 Live are fine for speculating on the causes of the fire, but it's worth noting that the angry gentleman was making allegations which couldn't be collaborated and the fact is that she didn't really try to stop him enough.
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radiolistener
Are people going to complain about Ben Brown now? IF not then most people on here are just a butch of VD haters.


VD is VERY poor. She just about got away with it on radio and television really does show her up at her Peter Principle.
BM
BM11
Bizarre scenes from the commons briefing after the camera is only allowed to be switched on 50 minutes into the briefing.
JO
Johnnie
Piki Seku [sp] - the man who swore on the BBC News Channel yesterday morning - was interviewed by Colin Brazier earlier today.

LL
London Lite Founding member
Mr Seku given a day to calm down had a more measured but still passionate interview on Sky. An example of how to do the human side of the story after the story had developed.

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