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Not quite.
On Freeview HD the BBC use H264 encoders that dynamically switch between 25p and 50i encoding modes based on what they believe the input to be. I think they do it on a GOP basis. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/researchanddevelopment/2011/04/software-upgrade-for-bbc-hd-on.shtml
You are right that all UK mainstream broadcasters TX from 1080/50i master suites, and the final point in the chain pre-encoding is a permanent 1080/50i signal (sometimes referred to as 1080i25) This can, of course, contain 25p content with no motion between the two interlaced fields (which is effectively segmented frame progressive) but the master tape or file is interlaced. (Some broadcasters also accept 1080/25p masters - I think Sky do - but they will be replayed with 1080/50i output)
The dynamic H264 encoder i/p switching is a function of the encoder and isn't flagged upstream. (When the BBC first introduced it - Sony TV sets went bonkers because Sony had only thought that i/p switching would happen on channel changes - if at all - and there was a sound disturbance when the i/p switch happened. And it happens a LOT on some content...)
When it comes to DSLRs and 1080/25p output. My understanding is that early models got very hot and started shutting down (and pixels died more quickly) because of the heavy processing required to process and down convert the chip output (which is much higher res than 1080p) to 1080p. Most cameras did this (and many still do) just by discarding lines and pixels, rather than filtering, which causes nasty moire. At the moment the only DSLR that is fully EBU approved is the Canon D1C ISTR.
It's an interesting choice to use Nikon DSLRs - but not sure that you really want to shoot news studios with shallow DoF, and if you don't go for that look, why not use something like low-end PMWs or similar cameras (which have the benefit of being able to be properly remotely controlled). I wonder how they will be racking their DSLRs and picture-matching them?
noggin
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As far as I'm aware no system (TV based, IP is different) in the UK actually transmits in progressive, all systems interlace for transmission.
But yes DSLRs are not built for live output the issue used to be overheating sensors, I presume the D800 doesn't have this issue?
Edit: I also notice from some of the videos posted earlier in the thread, poorly framed iphone footage and wrongly white balanced dslr interview, should look great come launch...!
But yes DSLRs are not built for live output the issue used to be overheating sensors, I presume the D800 doesn't have this issue?
Edit: I also notice from some of the videos posted earlier in the thread, poorly framed iphone footage and wrongly white balanced dslr interview, should look great come launch...!
Not quite.
On Freeview HD the BBC use H264 encoders that dynamically switch between 25p and 50i encoding modes based on what they believe the input to be. I think they do it on a GOP basis. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/researchanddevelopment/2011/04/software-upgrade-for-bbc-hd-on.shtml
You are right that all UK mainstream broadcasters TX from 1080/50i master suites, and the final point in the chain pre-encoding is a permanent 1080/50i signal (sometimes referred to as 1080i25) This can, of course, contain 25p content with no motion between the two interlaced fields (which is effectively segmented frame progressive) but the master tape or file is interlaced. (Some broadcasters also accept 1080/25p masters - I think Sky do - but they will be replayed with 1080/50i output)
The dynamic H264 encoder i/p switching is a function of the encoder and isn't flagged upstream. (When the BBC first introduced it - Sony TV sets went bonkers because Sony had only thought that i/p switching would happen on channel changes - if at all - and there was a sound disturbance when the i/p switch happened. And it happens a LOT on some content...)
When it comes to DSLRs and 1080/25p output. My understanding is that early models got very hot and started shutting down (and pixels died more quickly) because of the heavy processing required to process and down convert the chip output (which is much higher res than 1080p) to 1080p. Most cameras did this (and many still do) just by discarding lines and pixels, rather than filtering, which causes nasty moire. At the moment the only DSLR that is fully EBU approved is the Canon D1C ISTR.
It's an interesting choice to use Nikon DSLRs - but not sure that you really want to shoot news studios with shallow DoF, and if you don't go for that look, why not use something like low-end PMWs or similar cameras (which have the benefit of being able to be properly remotely controlled). I wonder how they will be racking their DSLRs and picture-matching them?