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Davidjb1,510 posts since 23 Mar 2001
Newsroom posted:
Believe it or not...But the BBC used one of ITN's studios in last night's election coverage, and were at Gray's Inn Road all week setting up.


Yes they were using the VR Studio @ Grays Inn Road for Jeremy Vine. Afterall it is one of the best VR Studios about and it's not like ITV were doing much with it that night!
noggin14,632 posts since 26 Jun 2001
Janner south west posted:
On a technical level, how hard would it be to link up all the regions and give them different opt outs so thta sa their results came in, they would switch to that feed ?


It is technically possible - though in English regions you have to circumvent the opt-out circuitry to make it happen on digital as well as analogue - with a few exceptions (like Jersey and possibly Oxford).

However because the English regions infrastructure is based on "analogue as master" the result straps would appear keyed over the analogue network, even on digital outlets, so you'd end up with a soft 14:9 pillarbox for the duration of the opt.

English regions can't opt out with 16:9 digital network and straps keyed over - for all sorts of relative delay issues. It doesn't matter whether the region is a 16:9 or 4:3 region - they all run with 4:3 analogue network as master.

The same is true of Children in Need nigh - local straps are accompanies by soft and cropped network on digital...
mark1,658 posts since 27 Jun 2001
Davidjb posted:
Newsroom posted:
Believe it or not...But the BBC used one of ITN's studios in last night's election coverage, and were at Gray's Inn Road all week setting up.


Yes they were using the VR Studio @ Grays Inn Road for Jeremy Vine. Afterall it is one of the best VR Studios about and it's not like ITV were doing much with it that night!


Just out of interest, why?

Doesn't TVC have its own VR studio? Ie was it cheaper to rent at ITN for the night than set one up themselves?
Jonathan H837 posts since 17 May 2004
mark posted:
Davidjb posted:
Newsroom posted:
Believe it or not...But the BBC used one of ITN's studios in last night's election coverage, and were at Gray's Inn Road all week setting up.


Yes they were using the VR Studio @ Grays Inn Road for Jeremy Vine. Afterall it is one of the best VR Studios about and it's not like ITV were doing much with it that night!


Just out of interest, why? Doesn't TVC have its own VR studio?

Amazingly, no. At least, not of any decent size.

mark posted:
Was it cheaper to rent at ITN for the night than set one up themselves?

I guess so.
jrothwell972,681 posts since 29 Oct 2006
Newsroom posted:
Believe it or not...But the BBC used one of ITN's studios in last night's election coverage, and were at Gray's Inn Road all week setting up.


My goodness... what if...???

(ITN theme music) "From the headquarters of ITN, (switches to BBC News music ) the BBC Ten O'clock News with Peter Sissons and Trevor McDonald."

So they rented out one of ITN's studios for the night - perhaps when BBC News moves to Broadcasting House there might be a new VR studio installed.
Jonathan H837 posts since 17 May 2004
jrothwell97 posted:
So they rented out one of ITN's studios for the night - perhaps when BBC News moves to Broadcasting House there might be a new VR studio installed.

Unlikely, when there's a one of the best in the country just up the road at ITN for them to use. Anyway, surely VR is a bit of a passing fad and trend in news, a bit like sitting down at a desk... By the way, did anyone see the French television coverage of the presidential debate? It was entirely in VR and whilst quite clever, simply did not look real at all.
Jonathan H837 posts since 17 May 2004
Newsroom posted:
I was quite suprised myself when I found out, and am told they were charged the earth.

They wouldn't have gone to another company if they were charged the earth! Common sense says it must have cost less than using their own studio.
TG439 posts since 11 Jul 2004
noggin posted:
English regions can't opt out with 16:9 digital network and straps keyed over - for all sorts of relative delay issues. It doesn't matter whether the region is a 16:9 or 4:3 region - they all run with 4:3 analogue network as master.


That's what I'd thought - flicking through all the English regions on DSat showed this - so just how did BBC South East manage it? Their strap was overlaid on a full 16:9 picture, and the only slight glitch was a thin flickering white line at the top of the strap.

Did they, i don't know, cheat it somehow?
mark1,658 posts since 27 Jun 2001
Jonathan H posted:
By the way, did anyone see the French television coverage of the presidential debate? It was entirely in VR and whilst quite clever, simply did not look real at all.


I'm not sure it was VR, actually. I saw some behind-the-scenes pictures on French TV as they were getting the studio ready, and it all looked like it was real. I think the images behind the candidates (a kind of pastel image of the Elysee Palace) were on big video screens.
Newsroom1,766 posts since 2 Mar 2005
Jonathan H posted:
Newsroom posted:
I was quite suprised myself when I found out, and am told they were charged the earth.

They wouldn't have gone to another company if they were charged the earth! Common sense says it must have cost less than using their own studio.


I think you'll find they were, and it was probably their only feasible option, due to lack of their own facilities.
Davidjb1,510 posts since 23 Mar 2001
mark posted:
Davidjb posted:
Newsroom posted:
Believe it or not...But the BBC used one of ITN's studios in last night's election coverage, and were at Gray's Inn Road all week setting up.


Yes they were using the VR Studio @ Grays Inn Road for Jeremy Vine. Afterall it is one of the best VR Studios about and it's not like ITV were doing much with it that night!


Just out of interest, why?

Doesn't TVC have its own VR studio? Ie was it cheaper to rent at ITN for the night than set one up themselves?


TVC has VR stuff but not as advanced as ITN's 1Million studio. It makes sense to use the best available hence why ITN's studio was hired. TV companies rent kit & studios off each other all the while this isn't a one off.