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I have seen a railway timetable somewhere which shows the same train at the start of the day and end of the day, as it traverses midnight. The column is essentially duplicated apart from that it calls at a particular station at 00:00 at the start of the day but at 24:00 at the end of the day.

At larger stations there aren't any trains at midnight, they are deliberately a timetabled 23:59 to avoid confusion but may leave a minute late.

Of course in broadcasting (and in other industries too) the day goes beyond 24:00 up to 30:00.

Back on topic and Sadiq Khan was inaugurated as Mayor on Sunday as planned in the end anyway so the extra day of Boris didn't happen.
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Shaun Linden
Richard posted:
all_night posted:
Austin Tatious posted:

There's no such thing as "12am" (nor, indeed, "12pm").

There's 12midday (a.k.a. 12noon) and there's also 12midnight, neither of which fall within "a.m." or "p.m.".

They stand for "ante meridiem" (Latin for " before midday") and "post meridiem" (Latin for " after midday").

Midday itself is actually, erm, midday. It is neither "before" nor "after" itself. Therefore it is neither "a.m." nor "p.m.".

Here endeth the lesson. Smile


But 12am and 12pm are more commonly accepted. Most people get confused that if i said at midnight on Monday 9th May, that was earlier today, whereas a lot think tonight, which technically is Tuesday 10th May 12.00am.

As many people say and use 12am / 12pm then this is also accepted. So Alex, do not worry.


He is right, though. 12am does not exist, but 12:00:01am does. Using the 24-clock might be a solution. Though I did see a temporary roadworks sigh with the time 24:00pm shown on it...


My explanation is what is generally used so therefore I am right, and will always be right.
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Lou Scannon
all_night posted:
Richard posted:
all_night posted:

But 12am and 12pm are more commonly accepted. Most people get confused that if i said at midnight on Monday 9th May, that was earlier today, whereas a lot think tonight, which technically is Tuesday 10th May 12.00am.

As many people say and use 12am / 12pm then this is also accepted. So Alex, do not worry.


He is right, though. 12am does not exist, but 12:00:01am does. Using the 24-clock might be a solution. Though I did see a temporary roadworks sigh with the time 24:00pm shown on it...


My explanation is what is generally used so therefore I am right, and will always be right.


I hope you're being ironic/humorous. Otherwise, you're being massively arrogant. (And also still factually incorrect about the concept of those pieces of time terminology).

Just because something is widely said and generally understood, doesn't necessarily make it strictly accurate. For example, people calling ALL vacuum cleaners "Hoovers", regardless of which manufacturer they're made by.

The spirit of my original post was to helpfully explain about a.m./p.m., to impart a little knowledge, not to tell anyone off etc.

It's not physically possible for someone to either agree or disagree with what I have explained without first actually comprehending what it is that I have explained.

And I'm not convinced that everyone has fully understood my post.

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