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Jade Goody Coverage

Everywhere on every channel (February 2009)

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SP
Spencer
Inspector Sands posted:
No-one's forcing a new editor to feature a story like the Jade one, it depends how they judge how good/interesting/relevant a story is compared with all the others at a particular moment


I don't think anyone would deny that's true, but it's an issue of whether they're making the right decision or not to put an over-sensationalised celebrity story top of the running order.
BR
Brekkie
Exactly. When Wendy Richard died it was dealt with appropriately - one story at the end of a bulletin, with a similar level of coverage on the news channels. We all know when Jade Goody, who has contributed far less too British society, dies it'll be treated as top story material.

There's a ridiculous notion in the papers today that her death will lead to the "biggest public out pouring of grief since Princess Diana". Just WTF do they think she is?
IS
Inspector Sands
Spencer For Hire posted:

I don't think anyone would deny that's true, but it's an issue of whether they're making the right decision or not to put an over-sensationalised celebrity story top of the running order.


There will be news editors who feel that way and some that won't, it just depends who is in charge that day. You can have no doubt that there'll be much discussion in newsroom when it happens
PT
Put The Telly On
Brekkie posted:
Exactly. When Wendy Richard died it was dealt with appropriately - one story at the end of a bulletin, with a similar level of coverage on the news channels. We all know when Jade Goody, who has contributed far less too British society, dies it'll be treated as top story material.

There's a ridiculous notion in the papers today that her death will lead to the "biggest public out pouring of grief since Princess Diana". Just WTF do they think she is?


Yeah that's a bit OTT but you'll certainly get all those sucked in by her Living documentaries doing that.

Also, I think we're forgetting, as I've said before, Jade wants all this coverage and is using the likes of Max Clifford to work things for her. That is where the problem lies in my opinion, not to mention the fact also that she was a 'reality star' which in the media's eyes..we've all 'lived alongside her' not just grown up watching her ala Wendy Richard.
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
Brekkie posted:
There's a ridiculous notion in the papers today that her death will lead to the "biggest public out pouring of grief since Princess Diana". Just WTF do they think she is?


Brekkie, for someone so apparently media savvy, you're showing one heck of a lot of naivety.

What do you think a newspaper editor's primary objective is? To shift copies.

It was the papers who dubbed her a "bully", and now they're pouring over her terminal illness.

She is, like it or not, a talking point, and so she'll appear in all the papers. Obviously anything getting that much coverage will then trickle into BBC news output too - as they can hardly ignore it.

As the Inspector says, any given editor has to make the judgement call - so sometimes she'll be at the top of the running order, and other times she'll be elsewhere.

But you've already made your views on this individual quite clear - with needless harshness like "whoring herself", and "selling her soul".

Forgive me - but your evaluation comes across as far worse than anything I read in the papers during the ill-fated CBB.

So really, if you're sick of it then turn it off. She will be dead soon (something else you were gleeful about), and then it will all be over for you.

Most sensible people think she's neither a monster nor a saint - and aren't so easily led by tabloid headlines. She is what she is.

All this "hypocritical" talk is bull, if you want my opinion. The papers only aim is to increase their circulation - and they will say ANYTHING to achieve it. If you expect them to be even-handed, consistent and sensible then you are naive and you're going to be disappointed.
MD
mdtauk
I read about her wanting screens at her funeral, and I have had enough. I don't ever want to see her, hear about her, anymore. She should just die quickly and peacfully in private...
MD
mdtauk
Gavin Scott posted:
Brekkie posted:
There's a ridiculous notion in the papers today that her death will lead to the "biggest public out pouring of grief since Princess Diana". Just WTF do they think she is?


Brekkie, for someone so apparently media savvy, you're showing one heck of a lot of naivety.

What do you think a newspaper editor's primary objective is? To shift copies.

It was the papers who dubbed her a "bully", and now they're pouring over her terminal illness.

She is, like it or not, a talking point, and so she'll appear in all the papers. Obviously anything getting that much coverage will then trickle into BBC news output too - as they can hardly ignore it.

As the Inspector says, any given editor has to make the judgement call - so sometimes she'll be at the top of the running order, and other times she'll be elsewhere.

But you've already made your views on this individual quite clear - with needless harshness like "whoring herself", and "selling her soul".

Forgive me - but your evaluation comes across as far worse than anything I read in the papers during the ill-fated CBB.

So really, if you're sick of it then turn it off. She will be dead soon (something else you were gleeful about), and then it will all be over for you.

Most sensible people think she's neither a monster nor a saint - and aren't so easily led by tabloid headlines. She is what she is.

All this "hypocritical" talk is bull, if you want my opinion. The papers only aim is to increase their circulation - and they will say ANYTHING to achieve it. If you expect them to be even-handed, consistent and sensible then you are naive and you're going to be disappointed.


I don't blaim the media, I blaim her and the stupid, idiotic, pathetic, feeble, mindless, shallow, evil members of the public who want to read/hear about/see her final days...
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
Its "blame" Martin, not "blaim".

You know, you can accuse her of many things, but she didn't ask to be taken by a vicious illness when her children are so young.

Wishing her to "die quickly" because you can't heave your arse off the couch to change channel is an outrageous thing to say, in my opinion.
MD
mdtauk
Gavin Scott posted:
Its "blame" Martin, not "blaim".

You know, you can accuse her of many things, but she didn't ask to be taken by a vicious illness when her children are so young.

Wishing her to "die quickly" because you can't heave your arse off the couch to change channel is an outrageous thing to say, in my opinion.


They say she can't talk, or move about, now... If it were me, I wouldnt want to continue in that state, and would end it before I became incapable.

I want her suffering to end, its not fair she should die so young, but she is going to die, in days if not weeks, and so many people are making money from her it is just downright horrific.

I never liked her since she became infamous on Big Brother etc, and she has spent all her time and energies courting public attention. I never liked seeing her, hearing her etc on the Internet, TV, Radio, Newspapers etc, and now she is dying, I want to hear about her even less.

But if I had my choice, she would never appear in public media again, and just live a happy life with her kids. But as she is dying, it is surely better that now she is in such a vulnerable state, that the end come swiftly and peacfully.

If you think that is wrong, that is your right. But I believe in quality of life, not just life, and I wont change my opinions of her, now compared to when she was well, because that is hypocritical.
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
martinDTanderson posted:
Gavin Scott posted:
Its "blame" Martin, not "blaim".

You know, you can accuse her of many things, but she didn't ask to be taken by a vicious illness when her children are so young.

Wishing her to "die quickly" because you can't heave your arse off the couch to change channel is an outrageous thing to say, in my opinion.


They say she can't talk, or move about, now... If it were me, I wouldnt want to continue in that state, and would end it before I became incapable.

I want her suffering to end, its not fair she should die so young, but she is going to die, in days if not weeks, and so many people are making money from her it is just downright horrific.

I never liked her since she became infamous on Big Brother etc, and she has spent all her time and energies courting public attention. I never liked seeing her, hearing her etc on the Internet, TV, Radio, Newspapers etc, and now she is dying, I want to hear about her even less.

But if I had my choice, she would never appear in public media again, and just live a happy life with her kids. But as she is dying, it is surely better that now she is in such a vulnerable state, that the end come swiftly and peacfully.

If you think that is wrong, that is your right. But I believe in quality of life, not just life, and I wont change my opinions of her, now compared to when she was well, because that is hypocritical.


Well when and how she should die isn't really a matter for you. That's between her, her doctors, family and the ravages of cancer. There are some things in life we're just not in control of.

Your talk of "quality of life" is laudable, but that's not what you were saying above. You were saying, "I don't want to see her, I just wish she would die quickly and peacefully".

She has children - neither you nor I do, so I'm not about to say how that impacts on a person because although I may have an intellectual idea, I have no experience. She may, as many do in this situation, fight on until she has no fight left.

Its a sad indictment on the person who wishes someone dead because they are "fed up hearing about it".

I have opinions on Jade, and they haven't really changed. She's not the brightest penny in the fountain, and she has no discernible talent. I'm not a fan, really.

But I also have a heart. This person has been in my conciousness for some years now, and laughing about and dismissing her illness and impending death, or ANYONE'S impending death seems callous to me.

Maybe that's the cloth I am cut from, and maybe you're different.

I know what type of person I would like to be thought of - and its nothing like the opinions I have formed on some here.
BR
Brekkie
nok32uk posted:
Brekkie posted:
Exactly. When Wendy Richard died it was dealt with appropriately - one story at the end of a bulletin, with a similar level of coverage on the news channels. We all know when Jade Goody, who has contributed far less too British society, dies it'll be treated as top story material.

There's a ridiculous notion in the papers today that her death will lead to the "biggest public out pouring of grief since Princess Diana". Just WTF do they think she is?


Yeah that's a bit OTT but you'll certainly get all those sucked in by her Living documentaries doing that.

Also, I think we're forgetting, as I've said before, Jade wants all this coverage and is using the likes of Max Clifford to work things for her.

That's the issue though. Whether Jade wants it or not (and I believe Max Clifford has sunk to new depths over this affair) surely it's what the consumer wants that's the important thing. With papers there is a choice (though not when every one of them has her on the front page!) - but with TV the choice is limited, and frankly the people likely to be tuning into a 24-hour news channel aren't likely to be tuning in for an update on Jade Goody.


Gavin - for gods sake grow up. I'm sick of you and your cronies just attacking everything I post for the sake of it, and I'm sure other members here are too. It's a forum - and I'll post my opinion. If you disagree with it fair enough, but I am absolutely sick to death of being criticised for posting my opinion in the first place - usually for making assumptions or stating something as fact, when I never ever do such a thing.

It's you and your cronies who make the assumptions and interpret my views as fact, usually assuming it's a fact the other members here feel the same way. I ignore most of it, but I really feel now that the holier than thou attitude of a handful of posters around here who think they're better than everyone else is slowly killing this forum off.
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
Brekkie posted:
Gavin - for gods sake grow up. I'm sick of you and your cronies just attacking everything I post for the sake of it, and I'm sure other members here are too. It's a forum - and I'll post my opinion. If you disagree with it fair enough, but I am absolutely sick to death of being criticised for posting my opinion in the first place - usually for making assumptions or stating something as fact, when I never ever do such a thing.

It's you and your cronies who make the assumptions and interpret my views as fact, usually assuming it's a fact the other members here feel the same way. I ignore most of it, but I really feel now that the holier than thou attitude of a handful of posters around here who think they're better than everyone else is slowly killing this forum off.


I speak for myself and no one else, Brekkie.

You've expressed your opinion, and I have expressed mine. So where have I gone wrong, exactly?

Isn't it more likely that you don't like being accused of being callous?

Your post count is 6 times that of the next most prolific member. I don't think this forum is in any danger of being killed off while you're here.

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