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ITV wants to axe some regional news services

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A former member
what about ITV local?

alot more people are using the internet for local news?
TV
tvmercia Founding member
623058 posted:
what about ITV local?

alot more people are using the internet for local news?

what about it? the number of people using the internet for local news may be increasing - but the audience for quality regional news on television is not in decline - as proved by the bbc.

itv is in a privileged position as a broadcaster as reiterated again and again in this thread, which is why many argue that a meaningful regional news service should continue.

oh and do you think that 'itv south west local' covering an area from cheltenham to the isles of scilly or 'itv north local' covering from stranraer in scotland to york will be particularly popular internet services? seeing as itv local piggybacks almost exclusively off the back of material gathered for the tv broadcasts, any reduction in local-ness for the tv broadcasts will filter through to the online presence.
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A former member
Steven O posted:
623058 posted:
john04 posted:
[Ofcom have confirmed that any alteration to the area covered by STV Glasgow would require a new licence to be advertised. In effect STV Glasgow would lose its current right to broadcast, and have to bid for the new licence, with no guarantee of winning.
My preferred option would be for Broadcasting to be devolved to the Scottish Government. Two new licences would be advertised for Scotland, (the old Grampian and Scottish / part Border) with the proviso that the same contractor cannot bid for both areas.


I take it this also appeal to
ITV getting the New Tyne tess + Cumbria
actully also with the the New
Granada adding on the man and south of Cumbria

3 new contract up for grabs but woudl any one really wont them>


Yes.

Granada and STV would need to re-bid for the enlarged franchise areas.


Hmmm. Interesting.

With that being the case, this could be the last golden opportunity for local businessmen in the affected areas (come on John Hall -- we all know what you said when YTV bought TTTV in the first place!!) to bid for the re-advertised areas.

Get a few areas out of Granada's grubby mits, and we might get somewhere...
WE
Westy2
tvmercia posted:
623058 posted:
what about ITV local?

alot more people are using the internet for local news?

what about it? the number of people using the internet for local news may be increasing - but the audience for quality regional news on television is not in decline - as proved by the bbc.

itv is in a privileged position as a broadcaster as reiterated again and again in this thread, which is why many argue that a meaningful regional news service should continue.

oh and do you think that 'itv south west local' covering an area from cheltenham to the isles of scilly or 'itv north local' covering from stranraer in scotland to york will be particularly popular internet services? seeing as itv local piggybacks almost exclusively off the back of material gathered for the tv broadcasts, any reduction in local-ness for the tv broadcasts will filter through to the online presence.


I can't play the reports anyway!
ST
Stuart
jason posted:
With that being the case, this could be the last golden opportunity for local businessmen in the affected areas (come on John Hall -- we all know what you said when YTV bought TTTV in the first place!!) to bid for the re-advertised areas.

Even Branson wouldn't be daft enough to bid for a new Channel 3 regional licence at this stage. He's got his TV foothold anyway. I'm sure post-DSO he will make a play for ITV/SMG/UTV as a whole.
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A former member
I'd have thought that, if cheap enough, a small ITV franchise would still be a meal ticket quite honestly. You'd only have to give a nod and a wink to regionality (and STILL be doing better than ITV are now!), and programming is guaranteed.

An area like the SW or NE/Cumbria would be a cheap franchise to buy.

The main reason most of the companies merged in the first place was the crippling auction fees. ITV wouldn't be bidding too high so it would be possible to sneak in with a trifling amount.

It's not going to happen though as you say.
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A former member
I know STV would not go for it!

ITV may decide to go for it but STV would not risk it, there stand to lose a far more than what there could gain.

how many people actully live in the Borders tv area?
TV
tvmercia Founding member
623058 posted:
I know STV would not go for it!

really? i put it to you that you THINK they would not
RJ
RJG
STV, or rather the Scottish Media Group, actually made a takeover bid for Border. But it was declined. Next thing you know they agree to be taken over by Granada and the rest, as they say, is history. Just like Border TV will be within a few months, or a year or two at the most. They signed their own death warrant when they agreed the merger deal. BTW, around 750,000 people live in Border's franchise area, with around 250,000 of that total in the Scottish part, effectively exiles, in ITV terms, in their own country!
LO
Londoner
Border and Tyne Tees to be placed under single management:
http://www.cumberland-news.co.uk/news/viewarticle.aspx?id=581083
LW
little white dot
Cumberland News article posted:
The executive chairman of ITV has already hinted that Border news might have to be given more airtime if the controversial merger with Tyne Tees goes ahead.

It had initially been anticipated that a mini “opt-out” bulletin for Cumbria, southern Scotland and the Isle of Man would be about seven to 10 minutes long.

But Michael Grade has told Carlisle MP Eric Martlew that this could now be as long as 12 minutes.


That bit of the article shows that ITV are anticipating/intending it being the whole of Tyne Tees + Border merging (rather than Manx & S Scot going to Granada and STV, respectively).

Whilst the two-way split for the more "newsy" part of the 6pm programme will make things better than they'd otherwise be, the "fluffier" latter half of the programme will still seem odd to viewers, covering such a huge area. And - much more importantly - seeings as short bulletins will presumably not have the two-way split, it really will be an inadequate news service.

Also, the actual "Lookaround" name will clearly go, as the new programme will surely have to have a single name that mentions neither "North East/Tyne Tees" nor "Border/Lookaround". (In the same way that neither the "Central" nor "Meridian" names survived into the new Thames Valley region)

Sod knows what they could call it though. Something like "ITV North News" would surely alienate Scottish viewers, as they live in the south of their country. Similarly, as the Isle of Man is a stand-alone place in its own right, it is not a "north" (nor south, west, or east!) "portion" of anything larger - it's a whole! (That said, I'd imagine that Manx people probably accept that - for the sake of practicality - it's okay to be grouped in with "North (West) England", to keep things simple).

I really don't see any way that ITV can form a "Tyne Tees + Border" region without seriously p*ssing off some/all Border viewers. (I expect that, as the merged programme will presumably be Gateshead-based, it will have a Tyne Tees bias, hence Tyne Tees viewers will not have any cause to feel p*ssed off).
AN
all new Phil
So they could call it Lookaround then.

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