SO
According to this entry on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Television
the Border region is to be merged with Tyne Tees.
Whoever wrote this has jumped the gun, as we don't even know the scale of the ITV regions revamp yet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Television
the Border region is to be merged with Tyne Tees.
Whoever wrote this has jumped the gun, as we don't even know the scale of the ITV regions revamp yet.
DV
I presume discussions have been taking place across the ITV Network including the other broadcasters.
NU
Ah so it all becomes clear, yes you can have a wonderful shiny new ITV network, with great programmes, etc, BUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTTT any idea of regionality will be dropped like a stone.
YOU WILL ALL CALL THIS CHANNEL ITV1!!!!!!!
YOU WILL ALL CALL THIS CHANNEL ITV1!!!!!!!
GC
No, youve been told why.
if in any doubt:
http://www.itvplc.com/itv/fininfo/presentations/su2007presentation/su2007prs.pdf
Page 59 will tell you the context - Now = 17 programmes across 10 regions. Future = 9 programmes across 10 regions
ITV PLC never talks on behalf of the non PLC franchise areas.
DVB Cornwall posted:
I presume discussions have been taking place across the ITV Network including the other broadcasters.
No, youve been told why.
if in any doubt:
http://www.itvplc.com/itv/fininfo/presentations/su2007presentation/su2007prs.pdf
Page 59 will tell you the context - Now = 17 programmes across 10 regions. Future = 9 programmes across 10 regions
ITV PLC never talks on behalf of the non PLC franchise areas.
:-(
It is jumping the gun, but to be honest I can see the reasoning.
The BBC has done things like this for years without complaint. It'll be a shame (both Border and TTTV, two of the oldest names in broadcasting, will have to go) but I think it's inevitable really.
Just as long as the pair of us are not subsumed into the far larger Granada and YTV regions, it may work. That is not to say it is a good thing mind.
A former member
Steven O posted:
According to this entry on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Television
the Border region is to be merged with Tyne Tees.
Whoever wrote this has jumped the gun, as we don't even know the scale of the ITV regions revamp yet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Television
the Border region is to be merged with Tyne Tees.
Whoever wrote this has jumped the gun, as we don't even know the scale of the ITV regions revamp yet.
It is jumping the gun, but to be honest I can see the reasoning.
The BBC has done things like this for years without complaint. It'll be a shame (both Border and TTTV, two of the oldest names in broadcasting, will have to go) but I think it's inevitable really.
Just as long as the pair of us are not subsumed into the far larger Granada and YTV regions, it may work. That is not to say it is a good thing mind.
SO
It is jumping the gun, but to be honest I can see the reasoning.
The BBC has done things like this for years without complaint. It'll be a shame (both Border and TTTV, two of the oldest names in broadcasting, will have to go) but I think it's inevitable really.
Just as long as the pair of us are not subsumed into the far larger Granada and YTV regions, it may work. That is not to say it is a good thing mind.
Confirmed here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6991206.stm
Proposed services are: London Tonight, Central Tonight, Granada Reports, Meridian Tonight, Calendar, Anglia Tonight, West/Westcountry, Border/Tyne Tees, and Wales Tonight.
So three of the oldest names in ITV (Border, Tyne Tees, HTV West) and one of the youngest (Westcountry) will soon be no more if ITV's plans are approved.
What will happen to Border's Scottish area, though - will this pass to STV?
jason posted:
Steven O posted:
According to this entry on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Television
the Border region is to be merged with Tyne Tees.
Whoever wrote this has jumped the gun, as we don't even know the scale of the ITV regions revamp yet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Television
the Border region is to be merged with Tyne Tees.
Whoever wrote this has jumped the gun, as we don't even know the scale of the ITV regions revamp yet.
It is jumping the gun, but to be honest I can see the reasoning.
The BBC has done things like this for years without complaint. It'll be a shame (both Border and TTTV, two of the oldest names in broadcasting, will have to go) but I think it's inevitable really.
Just as long as the pair of us are not subsumed into the far larger Granada and YTV regions, it may work. That is not to say it is a good thing mind.
Confirmed here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6991206.stm
Proposed services are: London Tonight, Central Tonight, Granada Reports, Meridian Tonight, Calendar, Anglia Tonight, West/Westcountry, Border/Tyne Tees, and Wales Tonight.
So three of the oldest names in ITV (Border, Tyne Tees, HTV West) and one of the youngest (Westcountry) will soon be no more if ITV's plans are approved.
What will happen to Border's Scottish area, though - will this pass to STV?
NG
noggin
Founding member
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6991206.stm
Seems to sugges that there will be recorded local material within - so either versioned reports or a recorded news belt that is different in the newly created/existing sub-regions?
I can see the financial sense in merging regions - the fewer studio centres and newsrooms you operate the cheaper it gets. Especially as some regions have yet to be upgraded to fully digital integrated production - and the fewer regions you have to upgrade, the cheaper it gets... Presumably it is a way of closing the few remaining operations that are on their original ITV franchise sites...
However this does seem to be a reduction in the public service commitment - and given that ITV are still a profit making operation and still currently gifted spectrum to broadcast on that is deemed a public resource they do have to be held to account for their public service credentials surely.
I can see Grade's comments about making cuts now to preserve some form of regional commitment holds some water.
Seems to sugges that there will be recorded local material within - so either versioned reports or a recorded news belt that is different in the newly created/existing sub-regions?
I can see the financial sense in merging regions - the fewer studio centres and newsrooms you operate the cheaper it gets. Especially as some regions have yet to be upgraded to fully digital integrated production - and the fewer regions you have to upgrade, the cheaper it gets... Presumably it is a way of closing the few remaining operations that are on their original ITV franchise sites...
However this does seem to be a reduction in the public service commitment - and given that ITV are still a profit making operation and still currently gifted spectrum to broadcast on that is deemed a public resource they do have to be held to account for their public service credentials surely.
I can see Grade's comments about making cuts now to preserve some form of regional commitment holds some water.
:-(
A former member
> What will happen to Border's Scottish area, though - will this pass to STV?
Very likely to be honest.
For the new area to have any kind of local identity at all, it will have to identify with the North of England.
What I can possibly see happening is ITV paying STV to take over the news facilities of southern Scotland.
What's the betting that ITV pull a rabbit out the hat, and rename the programme "Northern Life" again?
It will seriously hack off people in Cumbria, but I'm sure folk in Newcastle would be delighted. They may even be able to persuade Paul Frost back for a few months to cement the deal.
Sounds silly, but I can see it happening. They did it with Granada Reports/Tony Wilson after all.
There is one other obstacle in all of this -- what to do with the Isle of Man? The names "Border" and "Lookaround" get around the regional identity issues the region has quite nicely, but that ain't gonna work for an expanded region.
Very likely to be honest.
For the new area to have any kind of local identity at all, it will have to identify with the North of England.
What I can possibly see happening is ITV paying STV to take over the news facilities of southern Scotland.
What's the betting that ITV pull a rabbit out the hat, and rename the programme "Northern Life" again?
It will seriously hack off people in Cumbria, but I'm sure folk in Newcastle would be delighted. They may even be able to persuade Paul Frost back for a few months to cement the deal.
Sounds silly, but I can see it happening. They did it with Granada Reports/Tony Wilson after all.
There is one other obstacle in all of this -- what to do with the Isle of Man? The names "Border" and "Lookaround" get around the regional identity issues the region has quite nicely, but that ain't gonna work for an expanded region.
:-(
A former member
I think STV will get hold of scottish borders, as it if was to go alone with the whole of north England then nearly most the story would have no effect on the scottish viewers , different laws, school... etc....