ST
See the earlier bulletin is branded "ITV News - Wales News" then - stupid!
I agree that does look really stupid!
It seems odd to do that when they haven't done the same with the other two regions that have changed (Central and West/Westcountry). The ITV News & 'programme title' aren't shown together during the lunchtime bulletin.
Even so, it could be easily solved by renaming the daytime bulletin as 'Wales Today' to match the 'Wales Tonight' branding for the main programme.
I appreciate that the BBC's evening programme has the same name, but they can hardly stop someone using such a generic term when they use ITN's established 'News at Ten' nomenclature on the basis that BBC is slapped in front of it.
The bulletin name would be 'ITV News - Wales Today'. That's better than 'ITV News - Wales News', which to pedants is grammatically incorrect anyway! If they really have an issue with the name, then just call it 'ITV News - WALES' for all bulletins/programmes.
Simples!
See the earlier bulletin is branded "ITV News - Wales News" then - stupid!
I agree that does look really stupid!
It seems odd to do that when they haven't done the same with the other two regions that have changed (Central and West/Westcountry). The ITV News & 'programme title' aren't shown together during the lunchtime bulletin.
Even so, it could be easily solved by renaming the daytime bulletin as 'Wales Today' to match the 'Wales Tonight' branding for the main programme.
I appreciate that the BBC's evening programme has the same name, but they can hardly stop someone using such a generic term when they use ITN's established 'News at Ten' nomenclature on the basis that BBC is slapped in front of it.
The bulletin name would be 'ITV News - Wales Today'. That's better than 'ITV News - Wales News', which to pedants is grammatically incorrect anyway! If they really have an issue with the name, then just call it 'ITV News - WALES' for all bulletins/programmes.
Simples!
JO
See the earlier bulletin is branded "ITV News - Wales News" then - stupid!
I agree that does look really stupid!
It seems odd to do that when they haven't done the same with the other two regions that have changed (Central and West/Westcountry). The ITV News & 'programme title' aren't shown together during the lunchtime bulletin.
I get the feeling it's meant to mean ITV News presents Wales News, ITV News presents Central Tonight etc. Rather then programmes actually being called ITV News The Westcountry Tonight etc. In the same the BBC logo as part of the CBBC logo is meant to represent it's a BBC product.
See the earlier bulletin is branded "ITV News - Wales News" then - stupid!
I agree that does look really stupid!
It seems odd to do that when they haven't done the same with the other two regions that have changed (Central and West/Westcountry). The ITV News & 'programme title' aren't shown together during the lunchtime bulletin.
I get the feeling it's meant to mean ITV News presents Wales News, ITV News presents Central Tonight etc. Rather then programmes actually being called ITV News The Westcountry Tonight etc. In the same the BBC logo as part of the CBBC logo is meant to represent it's a BBC product.
ST
You mean an integrated front cap , almost?
Whilst we did have 'Independent Television News - News At Ten', for long enough, they didn't have the word NEWS twice actualy in the title.
Although there was a GRANADA frontcap which used to lead into Granada Tonight, but never on screen at the same time, as that would be 'Granada Granada Tonight' .
I get the feeling it's meant to mean ITV News presents Wales News, ITV News presents Central Tonight etc. Rather then programmes actually being called ITV News The Westcountry Tonight etc. In the same the BBC logo as part of the CBBC logo is meant to represent it's a BBC product.
You mean an integrated front cap , almost?
Whilst we did have 'Independent Television News - News At Ten', for long enough, they didn't have the word NEWS twice actualy in the title.
Although there was a GRANADA frontcap which used to lead into Granada Tonight, but never on screen at the same time, as that would be 'Granada Granada Tonight' .
BR
No doubt it is, but the way it reads on screen makes it look rather dodgy.
Completely different issue here but I never really understood why when the regional news was forced back to 6pm in 1999 they didn't reinstated the Wales at Six brand.
I get the feeling it's meant to mean ITV News presents Wales News, ITV News presents Central Tonight etc. Rather then programmes actually being called ITV News The Westcountry Tonight etc. In the same the BBC logo as part of the CBBC logo is meant to represent it's a BBC product.
No doubt it is, but the way it reads on screen makes it look rather dodgy.
Completely different issue here but I never really understood why when the regional news was forced back to 6pm in 1999 they didn't reinstated the Wales at Six brand.
MR
Another appearance from Duncan Golestani this morning reporting on one of gmtv's top stories in Weston-Super-Mare'
Looks like he's left regional news behind.....
Looks like he's left regional news behind.....
MW
the ITV News is sort of like when BBC Regional Programmes have "BBC News".
E.G "MIDLANDS TODAY BBC News". It is just an integrated front cap. It says "Central/Wales/TWC Tonight from ITV News"
EDIT: Whoops, 'Midlands' shouldn't be bold - damn technology.
E.G "MIDLANDS TODAY BBC News". It is just an integrated front cap. It says "Central/Wales/TWC Tonight from ITV News"
EDIT: Whoops, 'Midlands' shouldn't be bold - damn technology.
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RE
UTV and NWN Media going after the ITV1 Wales news contract? - I really unsure by how this press release is written.
http://www.waleslive.tv/
http://www.waleslive.tv/
SP
I sincerely hope that logo never makes it on screen. It looks like something you'd have to look at as part of an eye test.
UTV and NWN Media going after the ITV1 Wales news contract? - I really unsure by how this press release is written.
http://www.waleslive.tv/
http://www.waleslive.tv/
I sincerely hope that logo never makes it on screen. It looks like something you'd have to look at as part of an eye test.
RB
No doubt it is, but the way it reads on screen makes it look rather dodgy.
Completely different issue here but I never really understood why when the regional news was forced back to 6pm in 1999 they didn't reinstated the Wales at Six brand.
I get the impression that ITV are trying to give all their regional programmes a 'Tonight' brand. Hence the reason that Anglia News became Anglia Tonight and Central News became Central Tonight.
Granada's change from Granada Tonight to Granada Reports came before the new thinking, I suspect. It would look a bit odd now to go back again.
Now, apart from Yorkshire, Granada and Border, all the ITV plc regional newses are Tonights.
I get the feeling it's meant to mean ITV News presents Wales News, ITV News presents Central Tonight etc. Rather then programmes actually being called ITV News The Westcountry Tonight etc. In the same the BBC logo as part of the CBBC logo is meant to represent it's a BBC product.
No doubt it is, but the way it reads on screen makes it look rather dodgy.
Completely different issue here but I never really understood why when the regional news was forced back to 6pm in 1999 they didn't reinstated the Wales at Six brand.
I get the impression that ITV are trying to give all their regional programmes a 'Tonight' brand. Hence the reason that Anglia News became Anglia Tonight and Central News became Central Tonight.
Granada's change from Granada Tonight to Granada Reports came before the new thinking, I suspect. It would look a bit odd now to go back again.
Now, apart from Yorkshire, Granada and Border, all the ITV plc regional newses are Tonights.
SP
I'm not sure it's so much a move towards calling them all '... Tonight', more a move away from the word 'News', which doesn't always seem appropriate for magazine programmes given some of the lighter content.
I get the impression that ITV are trying to give all their regional programmes a 'Tonight' brand. Hence the reason that Anglia News became Anglia Tonight and Central News became Central Tonight.
Granada's change from Granada Tonight to Granada Reports came before the new thinking, I suspect. It would look a bit odd now to go back again.
Now, apart from Yorkshire, Granada and Border, all the ITV plc regional newses are Tonights.
Granada's change from Granada Tonight to Granada Reports came before the new thinking, I suspect. It would look a bit odd now to go back again.
Now, apart from Yorkshire, Granada and Border, all the ITV plc regional newses are Tonights.
I'm not sure it's so much a move towards calling them all '... Tonight', more a move away from the word 'News', which doesn't always seem appropriate for magazine programmes given some of the lighter content.
SN
Not really sure if it's worth me digging up this thread for this, but it's not exactly related to the national ITV news.
The late ITV Wales Tonight bulletin came from the newsroom tonight - somehow it seemed like a much more authoritative bulletin this way, though perhaps that's just me.
The political programme Sharp End is tonight being broadcast live from the ITV Wales news studio with 'ice' blue lighting - much easier on the eye than the hideous yellow that's used for the news programmes. Granada's set always looks much better than the ITV Wales one - perhaps because the lights have a slightly darker tint - having said that, ITV Wales have made much more use of camera angles and the big screen recently. Presentationally it had become rather 'bland' in my opinion, and I maintain that the full-size desk format should return, but in general it seems like a much stronger programme these days, editorially as well as visually.
The late ITV Wales Tonight bulletin came from the newsroom tonight - somehow it seemed like a much more authoritative bulletin this way, though perhaps that's just me.
The political programme Sharp End is tonight being broadcast live from the ITV Wales news studio with 'ice' blue lighting - much easier on the eye than the hideous yellow that's used for the news programmes. Granada's set always looks much better than the ITV Wales one - perhaps because the lights have a slightly darker tint - having said that, ITV Wales have made much more use of camera angles and the big screen recently. Presentationally it had become rather 'bland' in my opinion, and I maintain that the full-size desk format should return, but in general it seems like a much stronger programme these days, editorially as well as visually.