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ITV to trial integrated newshour

(September 2011)

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IS
Inspector Sands
Square Eyes posted:

I can't imagine anyone would choose to watch news in this way. What better way to deliver the news but in two separate programes. At least you have the choice then of whether to watch the regional / national news or not.

It's hammocking - putting the 2 together 2 get viewers for one watching the other. There's plenty of ways it can be done without it being 2 seperate programmes, Nationwide was a success for years (although it didn't have much news as such) and the US local news programmes mix national and local news perfectly well

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And tone is an issue. Regional news has much more of a magazine theme.

But they'd have to get over that and do news. Clashes of tone wouldn't be a problem as the most important story for both would be at the top of the programme and then get 'lighter' from there. The regional featurey stuff would be near the end with the national featurey stuff
PE
Pete Founding member
Rijowhite posted:
Second suggestion for News Coverage on ITV, ready for 2014...I called it the 18 minute plan. No, it's not a diet! ENGLAND ONLY


Sorry is this an ITV idea or your idea? I presume the latter as how would Scotland and Wales get their national news? And how can England Only drop the Daybreak opts?
RI
Rijowhi
My idea. Post 2014 we're not even sure if Channel 3 will remain a network. It could be up to the individual companies to decide what programming they take from ITV plc. All so much in the air at present. Sorry for the confusion btw. Embarassed
BR
Brekkie
One thing is for sure - if it did happen it would probably be reversed quicker than you can say "News at Ten". I do fear though as some suggested it is ITV's attempt to knock the final nail into it's regional news coffin.
JA
JAS84
Rijowhite posted:
CITV channel should stay...as previously stated, heavy promotion of this should be provided by ITV on it's channels and hopefully with better programming.
What's CITV got to do with this topic? Confused
NL
Ne1L C
Good question.
RI
Rijowhi
Not a lot...was getting carried away. lol. Laughing
RD
rdd Founding member
Mike W posted:
623058 posted:
Andrew posted:
STV on the other hand will probably just bang on about the Scottish News Hour, miss any deadline on objecting to the ITV network news hour and end up having to go with it.


I doubt it since STV has done alot of work and has planing, so I bet there grab the chance to opt out

Andrew posted:
It often was a major change in tone when the regions used to hand back at 6:55 on BBC1 for the headlines, you would end with friendly banter and then straight into the most serious news of the day.


Reporting Scotland stopped doing that years ago.


As did every English Region (plus CI), Wales and NI.


Did NI ever do it? From what I remember the UK/world headlines at 6:55pm, when they did exist, were read in NI by the BBC Newsline presenters..
ED
ED Founding member
Maybe ITV should consider having the regions do the entire 1 hour bulletin themselves; have the local presenters read the regional, national, and international news, and have a news format similar to the regional/local newscasts in Australia, US, and Canada (heavier local/national/world news, weather content at the start, and lighter content, features, sport at the end).

The production staff putting together the regional news is already there at the station, I don't think there's any extra cost to put another 30 minutes to air. ITN can supply the national news content to the regions and can coordinate with them if the regions want a live report from an ITN correspondent.
RI
Rijowhi
ED posted:
Maybe ITV should consider having the regions do the entire 1 hour bulletin themselves; have the local presenters read the regional, national, and international news, and have a news format similar to the regional/local newscasts in Australia, US, and Canada (heavier local/national/world news, weather content at the start, and lighter content, features, sport at the end).

The production staff putting together the regional news is already there at the station, I don't think there's any extra cost to put another 30 minutes to air. ITN can supply the national news content to the regions and can coordinate with them if the regions want a live report from an ITN correspondent.


As much as I like the idea, I can't see ITV paying for an hour from each of the regions. It would cost more that way than having a segment of 15 - 30 minutes away from the National News. Sadly. Sad
WP
WillPS
How would the regions interact with roving reporters?
BR
Brekkie
ED posted:
Maybe ITV should consider having the regions do the entire 1 hour bulletin themselves; have the local presenters read the regional, national, and international news, and have a news format similar to the regional/local newscasts in Australia, US, and Canada (heavier local/national/world news, weather content at the start, and lighter content, features, sport at the end).

The production staff putting together the regional news is already there at the station, I don't think there's any extra cost to put another 30 minutes to air. ITN can supply the national news content to the regions and can coordinate with them if the regions want a live report from an ITN correspondent.

If ITV went down that route though they'd use it as an excuse to slash the number of regions completely - they'd probably be down to 4-6 English regions, with perhaps some sub opts.

Martin Phillp posted:
I wouldn't mind if they started the 6pm with an intro to the national bulletin with 60 secs heads, then the regional 30 min bulletin which then leads into the ITV Evening News. This would replace the current preview which airs half way through the current regional bulletin in ITV PLC regions.

I think during the Iraq War (and for some thing later - I'm sure I remember it being done with the 2004-2005 look) ITV delayed the regional news till around five past and played out the headlines and top story at 6pm, then had the regional news at 6.05pm before returning to the Evening News, and basically replaying the top story, at 6.30pm. That worked quite well.

However considering ITV have moved away from integrated regional bulletins (which IMO they did much more seemlessly than the BBC ever have) I'd be surprised if this plan ever came into fruition - although as you say it would hasten the decline of ITV regional news - which is something ITV plc are quite happy to do unfortunately.

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