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What should the ITV News Channel do to improve?

(September 2005)

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TJ
TedJrr
[quote="Londoner"]
Moz posted:
............. they put the wrong source up on the newswall so we saw the newsroom camera feed (they'd just been talking to a reporter in the newsroom ..........).
http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/newsroomnewswall.jpg


This seems to work rather well, and appears friendlier than the usual contrived presenters in newsroom chroma-key!
MA
Matrix
George12345 posted:
I think the ITN News Channel has much better Studio Graphics than BBC News 24 and Sky News.


OK Geogre. But It hasn't been known as the ITN News Channel for some years now.

Personally I find the ITV News Channel graphics slightly too large, garish and pointless.
It looked much nicer when they had the black ticker with the yellow and blue (dark varient)
I think the backdrop could do with a little re-jig now, ala Election Night and actually have a newsroom shot.

In terms of News 24 they really seem to have grown on me now. I hated the giant font to begin with, but as its been adapted and become more "stlylied" (if thats the word?) I've really started to quite like it. Just hope someone sorts the titles out soon.

Edited by my stupid self
DV
DVB Cornwall
It would be nice to actually have this channel ....

*goes back into the corner and sulks*
BR
Brekkie
Re: Graphics - it really annoys me that ITV News have some really nice graphics - but won't ditch the blue squares in favour of them!

The wavy lines, with the 4 squares scrolling across them, is used regularly in different colours for reports - tonight for Ronnie Barker's death - and looks brilliant!

I also think when they put in the story graphics on the newswall they should be from top to bottom - the blue squares at top and bottom doesn't look good!


Back to revamps - I do think if they could get some regional news on the channel it would lift it immensly.

I think for example including a bulletin in "Evening News Extra" could work really well, giving people not home at 6pm, and not willing till hang around till 11pm, the chance to catch up with the local news.
MA
Matrix
DVB Cornwall posted:
It would be nice to actually have this channel ....

*goes back into the corner and sulks*


Beleive me, your not missing much.

Oh and if someone at ITVNC considers "The Max Factor" an improvement you need shooting.
How is Gods name can somebody say, "I know, we need to improve the ITV News Channel"
"Ahh - I've got it. Lets get Max Cliffords, Peirs Morgan and James Hewitt and stick them on a show which everyone will love..."

WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!

*aplogises for the shouting. Heat of the moment and everything*
TW
Time Warp
...and now the possibility of removal from Freeview. ITV surely need to buck their ideas up!
MA
Matrix
time_warp posted:
...and now the possibility of removal from Freeview. ITV surely need to buck their ideas up!


Well half of the UK still hasn't been reconnected....

29 days later

BR
Brekkie
Been looking for this thread!

Many ideas have been suggested over the previous pages, including a few myself.

With the new look Sky News now on air, a few revised thoughts:

Arrow ITV News needs to get it's niche right. It has a strong regional network, and even without the introduction of regional bulletins, it can use the strength of it's regional links much better.

Arrow It's weak point is undoubtably international news. It's an area that needs improvement, but I wouldn't go as far as suggesting a world news bulletin until they have the network of correspondants to do it justice.

Arrow With Sky's appointment to view schedule they use their flagship, though not nationaly recognisable, names to good affect. ITV have some big names on the channel throughout the day, but they are poorly scheduled, and we now seem to be back to something similar as before the 2004 relaunch, with alot of random presenters.

Andrew Harvey, Alistair Stewart, Leyla Deybelge and Felicity Barr are all names the schedule can be built around - but obviously it needs more promotion on ITV1 - even if not during the Corrie commercials, during the ad breaks with no ads!

Arrow Though the overnight service is poor, it's not the first priority. In my opinion, the weak points of the schedule are in the hour before the ITV1 bulletins when the News Channel switches studio - and presenter - mid-bulletin so the ITV1 team can prepare.

Arrow And finally, of course the situation on Freeview is ridiculous. A new CC slot is now being made available, but even if ITV do win it for the ITV NC, sooner or later we'll have the same scenario with ITV5! The News Channel needs a guaranteed slot otherwise improvements are pretty pointless!


On to improvements. The ITV NC would be helped enormously if it had it's own studio. Nothing to fancy is needed, just a room with a desk and a screen - I'm thinking something like the long curved screen as used for the Big Brother eviction shows earlier this year. That could then hang behind the desk and form the background to stories and be used for live interviews.

However, even without a new studio they can make improvements by just switching studios at the top of the hour, rather than changing presenters midway through the hour.


The schedule - trying to be realistic, so hence it's not a 24-hr schedule, but there are a few tweaks, especially to the afternoon and prime-time line-up:

05.30 ITV Morning News

6.00 GMTV News Hour
With signing, moves from ITV2

7.00 ITV News at Breakfast
With Andrew Harvey and Lucy Alexander

10.00 Live with Alistair Stewart (from London Tonight studio)
Also with Lucy Alexander

12.30 ITV Lunchtime News
With Nicholas Owen and Nina Hossain

1.30 ITV News Network Lunch
NEW Presented by one of the LN presenters, linking live to regional newsrooms and bringing the top local stories this lunchtime.

2.00 ITV News Afternoon Live
NEW Rolling news throughout the afternoon, with Leyla Deybelge and Chris Rogers.

5.00 ITV News (from 2nd studio - either CSO or new NC studio)
NEW It's basically a rival to Live at Five, with the aim to make ITV NC the first place viewers turn to when they are back from work. Felicity Barr is the main presenter, alternating with Steve Scott. Includes live links to a few regional newsrooms.

6.30 ITV Evening News
With Mark Austin and Mary Nightingale

7.00 Evening News Extra
ENE, presented by one of the EN team, is extended to an hour with additional features including a sports bulletin (with Felicity) and a link-up to some regional newsrooms "UK Today" style.

8.00 ITV News
Felicity Barr (or Steve Scott) returns with an hour of rolling news.

9.00 ITV News at Nine (from 2nd studio)
NEW Katie Ledger presents the news channels very own flagship bulletin.

9.45 ITV News Sport Extra
NEW A daily sports bulletin, with Felicity Barr (or Steve Scott)

10.00 ITV News Network
With the BBC and Sky 10pm bulletins generally being more international based, the ITV NC offers it's nightly regional round-up programme as a genuine alternative.

10.30 ITV News at Ten Thirty
With Mark Austin (and sport with Felicity Barr - or Steve Scott of course!)

11.00 ITV News
Katie Ledger presents an hour of rolling news

12.00 ITV News Nightline
NEW Katie Ledger presents Nightline, a new nightly look back at the top stories of the day and look ahead at the stories of tomorrow as the first editions of the morning papers hit the shelves.

1.00 ITV News Nightline
Nightline is designed to be repeated throughout the night, so recorded as more of a news magazine show than a traditional news bulletin. Repeats continue on the hour until 4am.

And yes, I know it's not a live overnight service - but until the daytime line up sorts itself out, it's not a priority IMO.

4.00 ITV News Replay
More repeats, but repackaged as another chance to see how the news developed throughout the day. In other words, it begins with a repeat of the Lunchtime News, with repeats of the Evening News and 10.30 bulletin to follow. With ads and regional news cut out, it should all fit nicely into 90 minutes!
LU
Luke
Brekkie Boy posted:
but even if ITV do win it for the ITV NC, sooner or later we'll have the same scenario with ITV5! The News Channel needs a guaranteed slot otherwise improvements are pretty pointless!


you keep banging on about this ITV5 but i for one have seen no confirmation on that (if it exists) being launched on Freeview.

and all this talk of 'improvements' is surely worthless whilst the channel's days on Freeview are numbered. Wouldn't be surprised if it ceased to exist by this time next year
JO
Jonathan
Brekkie Boy posted:

On to improvements. The ITV NC would be helped enormously if it had it's own studio. Nothing to fancy is needed, just a room with a desk and a screen - I'm thinking something like the long curved screen as used for the Big Brother eviction shows earlier this year. That could then hang behind the desk and form the background to stories and be used for live interviews.



I thought the news channel had its own studio, or a clone of the main studio. For example, when news summaries are broadcast on ITV1, where is the ITVNC being broadcast from? Unless they use the virtual studio for the summaries.
BR
Brekkie
Jonathan posted:
I thought the news channel had its own studio, or a clone of the main studio. For example, when news summaries are broadcast on ITV1, where is the ITVNC being broadcast from? Unless they use the virtual studio for the summaries.


Well, the situation is much better now. It uses a 3D CSO studio on the News Channel while preperations for the ITV1 bulletin takes place. ITV1 summaries use a fixed shot CSO shot.

I do still think a News Channel studio would be of benefit to the channel, and allow it to be more flexible. However, it would likely be quite small so you have to question whether they are better off using the ITV News studio in the large periods it's not used!

Since Sky News launched the ITV News studio now looks very bland. Sky seemed to build an entire news room around the "news wall", while the ITV studio is just the "news wall".

Re: ITV5 - I'm beginning to doubt myself now, but I definately read about it soon after the launch of ITV3 when an ITV spokesbloke said they were planning to launch ITV4 (as a womens channel) and were in early stages of planning ITV5.

Done a search and can't find the article I want, but have one from earlier last year (pre-ITV3) saying ITV planning to launch five digital channels in the next five years: http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/040831/128/f1mhr.html
JO
Jonathan
Brekkie Boy posted:

I do still think a News Channel studio would be of benefit to the channel, and allow it to be more flexible. However, it would likely be quite small so you have to question whether they are better off using the ITV News studio in the large periods it's not used!


Yeh to add to your point, would you prefer the news channel studio to have its own identity i.e different setup of studio etc so it doesn't just look like a clone, like News24, their studios keep the same corporate colours, but they are different from the main studio.

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