CR
Would lightboxes as used by the BBC regions for their backdrops not look better than the dodgy compromise that it looks like the regions will have to put up with? I know that screens are a superior format for displaying a backdrop and that it would make it more difficult for the backdrop to be changed between day and night versions, but I doubt it'd be impossible, and ultimately it would get rid of the black bars which simply do not look nice. People have been saying it looks perfectly nice when there's just one presenter and they're on a close-up shot, but if that's the only shot in which they look fine the entire thing might as well be done in front of green screen accompanied by a fixed position camera!
MU
Around The House, like all ITV regional political programmes are recorded at Westminster. In Milbank Studios I believe?
Wasn't aware of that, but it makes sense. Must mean Tyne Tees' other studio is empty.
Shame about the black bars in the Channel studio. Once again they ruin something that could look sleek onscreen. I hope TT/B are in the next lot to recieve new studio. I notice Rachel Sweeney tweeting/instagrammingictures of a small platform in the newsroom with an autocue in front. Could this be their answer to a temporary studio?
That is big. Tyne Tees/Border have two studios, from back when their North/South programmes still existed and they moved out of Billingham. Because of cuts they only use the one studio which is like a shoebox for their programme. One if prerecorded earlier. The other is for Around the House, I believe. The blue screen is just inches away from the set and the cameras are literally just in the doorway.
Wasn't aware of that, but it makes sense. Must mean Tyne Tees' other studio is empty.
Shame about the black bars in the Channel studio. Once again they ruin something that could look sleek onscreen. I hope TT/B are in the next lot to recieve new studio. I notice Rachel Sweeney tweeting/instagrammingictures of a small platform in the newsroom with an autocue in front. Could this be their answer to a temporary studio?
CI
What makes the studio look so bad, those black sections, probably aren't even necessary. If they had right size screens, in portrait instead of landscape, it would look much better. Better even than this WPIX set from 2009.
http://www.newscaststudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/screen-shot-2009-09-14-at-65015-pm.png
http://www.newscaststudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/screen-shot-2009-09-14-at-65015-pm.png
SP
Which would probably triple the cost.
There is probably a good reason why BBC Millbank and BBC Midlands use exactly the same technique in their sets.
There is probably a good reason why BBC Millbank and BBC Midlands use exactly the same technique in their sets.
RK
The team isn't actually that small for the size of the station. One reason being that they do have to do quite a bit of old-fashioned news gathering. Unlike all the other regions, they don't have any real 'newswire' service from PA , etc.
This article on their website has a team pic to give you an idea of numbers...
http://www.itv.com/news/channel/2015-06-08/welcome-to-itv-channels-new-studios/
I'm curious what's PA mean - is it ITV's news sharing service or similar to APTN/Reuters TV?
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The team isn't actually that small for the size of the station. One reason being that they do have to do quite a bit of old-fashioned news gathering. Unlike all the other regions, they don't have any real 'newswire' service from PA , etc.
This article on their website has a team pic to give you an idea of numbers...
http://www.itv.com/news/channel/2015-06-08/welcome-to-itv-channels-new-studios/
I'm curious what's PA mean - is it ITV's news sharing service or similar to APTN/Reuters TV?
(Emphasis added)
DB
The team isn't actually that small for the size of the station. One reason being that they do have to do quite a bit of old-fashioned news gathering. Unlike all the other regions, they don't have any real 'newswire' service from PA , etc.
This article on their website has a team pic to give you an idea of numbers...
http://www.itv.com/news/channel/2015-06-08/welcome-to-itv-channels-new-studios/
I'm curious what's PA mean - is it ITV's news sharing service or similar to APTN/Reuters TV?
(Emphasis added)
Yup, you're close, its Press Association
https://www.pressassociation.com/
The team isn't actually that small for the size of the station. One reason being that they do have to do quite a bit of old-fashioned news gathering. Unlike all the other regions, they don't have any real 'newswire' service from PA , etc.
This article on their website has a team pic to give you an idea of numbers...
http://www.itv.com/news/channel/2015-06-08/welcome-to-itv-channels-new-studios/
I'm curious what's PA mean - is it ITV's news sharing service or similar to APTN/Reuters TV?
(Emphasis added)
Yup, you're close, its Press Association
https://www.pressassociation.com/
RK
Thanks.
Edit : Since this a is a brand new installation I'd figure I could ask this question in this thread. Are any of the ITV regions automated with Mosart, Ignite or OverDrive? I see they have what looks like a small switcher which they could have installed as a back up.
As a side note at some major new builds here in the US stations such as KNBC/KVEA (NBC's NBC/Telemundo duopoly in LA) have completely foregone installing a manual switcher. Seems kind of dangerous as if automation fails they'd be SOL.
Thanks.
Edit : Since this a is a brand new installation I'd figure I could ask this question in this thread. Are any of the ITV regions automated with Mosart, Ignite or OverDrive? I see they have what looks like a small switcher which they could have installed as a back up.
As a side note at some major new builds here in the US stations such as KNBC/KVEA (NBC's NBC/Telemundo duopoly in LA) have completely foregone installing a manual switcher. Seems kind of dangerous as if automation fails they'd be SOL.
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GL
The simplest solution could have been having the plasmas in front of back-lit white (or black, if they must) panels to at least create some kind of depth. The shine of the black panels makes it look like they've forgotten to switch something on.
Which would probably triple the cost.
There is probably a good reason why BBC Millbank and BBC Midlands use exactly the same technique in their sets.
There is probably a good reason why BBC Millbank and BBC Midlands use exactly the same technique in their sets.
The simplest solution could have been having the plasmas in front of back-lit white (or black, if they must) panels to at least create some kind of depth. The shine of the black panels makes it look like they've forgotten to switch something on.
RK
The simplest solution could have been having the plasmas in front of back-lit white (or black, if they must) panels to at least create some kind of depth. The shine of the black panels makes it look like they've forgotten to switch something on.
This isn't the example but they could do what my local ABC station did and mount the wall of panoramic screens out maybe a half a foot to foot off the wall. Of course it probably would be just single color LED rather than actual LED video screens behind the frosted panels.
Which would probably triple the cost.
There is probably a good reason why BBC Millbank and BBC Midlands use exactly the same technique in their sets.
There is probably a good reason why BBC Millbank and BBC Midlands use exactly the same technique in their sets.
The simplest solution could have been having the plasmas in front of back-lit white (or black, if they must) panels to at least create some kind of depth. The shine of the black panels makes it look like they've forgotten to switch something on.
This isn't the example but they could do what my local ABC station did and mount the wall of panoramic screens out maybe a half a foot to foot off the wall. Of course it probably would be just single color LED rather than actual LED video screens behind the frosted panels.
NG
Edit : Since this a is a brand new installation I'd figure I could ask this question in this thread. Are any of the ITV regions automated with Mosart, Ignite or OverDrive? I see they have what looks like a small switcher which they could have installed as a back up.
Not sure if ITV News are using any of those automation systems. They usually use Avid Airspeed or similar for playout, but with manual vision mixer control I think.
One thing to mention is that Mosart usually still requires a vision mixer (or switcher in US parlance) - certainly all the BBC W1 installs have a Kahuna controlled by Mosart. Mosart itself is purely a control system, it doesn't actually handle the video path. I think it would be possible to run Mosart without an operator control surface (i.e. the vision mixer control panel installed in a control room) and just have Mosart controlling the crate (the video processing electronics that actually do the work and usually live in an apps bay somewhere) I think that was probably a step to far for the BBC, as it leaves you with no backup, nor the ability to make shows without automation, or to run a half-way house (as shows like Newsnight in the UK do)
Overdrive and Ignite are different to Mosart, in that they incorporate vision mixing into their workflow directly and have integrated vision mixing hardware, so are a different use case.
As a side note at some major new builds here in the US stations such as KNBC/KVEA (NBC's NBC/Telemundo duopoly in LA) have completely foregone installing a manual switcher. Seems kind of dangerous as if automation fails they'd be SOL.
I guess if you go for massive automation, having manual switcher control without graphics, video replay, camera control etc. may mean you still don't have a show?
noggin
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Edit : Since this a is a brand new installation I'd figure I could ask this question in this thread. Are any of the ITV regions automated with Mosart, Ignite or OverDrive? I see they have what looks like a small switcher which they could have installed as a back up.
Not sure if ITV News are using any of those automation systems. They usually use Avid Airspeed or similar for playout, but with manual vision mixer control I think.
One thing to mention is that Mosart usually still requires a vision mixer (or switcher in US parlance) - certainly all the BBC W1 installs have a Kahuna controlled by Mosart. Mosart itself is purely a control system, it doesn't actually handle the video path. I think it would be possible to run Mosart without an operator control surface (i.e. the vision mixer control panel installed in a control room) and just have Mosart controlling the crate (the video processing electronics that actually do the work and usually live in an apps bay somewhere) I think that was probably a step to far for the BBC, as it leaves you with no backup, nor the ability to make shows without automation, or to run a half-way house (as shows like Newsnight in the UK do)
Overdrive and Ignite are different to Mosart, in that they incorporate vision mixing into their workflow directly and have integrated vision mixing hardware, so are a different use case.
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As a side note at some major new builds here in the US stations such as KNBC/KVEA (NBC's NBC/Telemundo duopoly in LA) have completely foregone installing a manual switcher. Seems kind of dangerous as if automation fails they'd be SOL.
I guess if you go for massive automation, having manual switcher control without graphics, video replay, camera control etc. may mean you still don't have a show?
RK
I guess if you go for massive automation, having manual switcher control without graphics, video replay, camera control etc. may mean you still don't have a show?
Automation just ties those systems together and controls it. If all the existing systems were up and running you still could do a lot manually. It would be difficult but you could still make it work.
I guess if you go for massive automation, having manual switcher control without graphics, video replay, camera control etc. may mean you still don't have a show?
Automation just ties those systems together and controls it. If all the existing systems were up and running you still could do a lot manually. It would be difficult but you could still make it work.