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Would it have killed ITV to reserve a small slot for regional news today?
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Steve Williams1,999 posts since 1 Aug 2008
Isn't the local bulletin only 4-6 minutes or so anyway. I really don't like how they're increasingly dropping the bulletin completely - and not due to schedule changes either. Even with the hour-long build up they could have aired a national and local bulletin from 3.45-4pm.


Given it was a 5pm kick-off, and there was a live match still taking place on BBC1, an hour-long build-up seemed pretty unnecessary, to be honest.

As you say, despite being billed in a ten or fifteen minute slot, the regional news is never that long and there's normally several minutes of trailers and adverts during this slot. I remember Gordon Burns on Twitter, a man with more interest in regional news than most, saying a while back he watched the regional news on a Saturday, decided to hang on to watch the national news but after about five minutes of trailers and adverts he'd got bored and switched off. If a former regional newsreader can't be bothered, what of the average viewer?

I don't know why they schedule it in such a pointlessly long slot. All it does is drive viewers away. I know it means the London newsreader can have a bit of a break before the national bulletin, but there's got to be a better way of doing it.

Anyway, what that meant was that last week any possible advantage from the rugby was totally frittered away thanks to the trailer-fest around the regional news. Last Saturday they had two bulletins at 6.45 and 9.45, both massively prominent times, and this week there was only one when it was at 10.30. They may as well have not bothered with a teatime one last week and shown You've Been Framed or something. It's no wonder ITV News has no viewer loyalty anymore when they schedule it in such haphazard fashion. It does nothing for the news, and nothing for the schedule as a whole.
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kernow609 posts since 18 Jan 2006

I don't know why they schedule it in such a pointlessly long slot. All it does is drive viewers away. I know it means the London newsreader can have a bit of a break before the national bulletin, but there's got to be a better way of doing it.



It might be a deliberate attempt by ITV to try and drive the viewing figures down, so that they can justify dropping it completely at some point.
Andrew12,024 posts since 27 Mar 2001
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
News on a Saturday is always haphazard and this applies to the BBC News as well. Their teatime news has been as early as 4:00 on occasion, and in the summer it'll turn up at 7:00. It's obviously scheduled around everything else as even the most news hungry viewer doesn't make a point of tuning in on a Saturday. To suggest anything else based on two Saturdays when there is rugby on in varying timeslots is over exaggerating.

I've never quite understood the time slot of the weekend regional news. The news requirement is five minutes and the bulletin is generally exactly five minutes long. (The weather is additional to that 5 mins, some regions embed it within the news but my region doesn't)

I can only assume some other region like Wales, UTV, STV or somebody airs a longer bulletin and everyone else has to fill, but it really does look bad. It's of course filled by loads of back to back trailers, including the long extended ones you don't often see anywhere else. No adverts of course as ITV don't air adverts at that time to save them up for later.
Jez10,701 posts since 7 May 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today
Wales bulletins are the same in length as all other regions and we therefore get 5 or 6 trailers back to back, which is ridiculous IMO. Regional News has been cut back enough as it is, the least they can do is have a proper 10 minute bulletin, excluding the regional weather. When there is lots of sports results to report there is barely enough time to do either the news or sport properly. It often feels very rushed. I can understand if it was proper adverts, but for trailers??

Wales did however broadcast their half hour show "Newsweek Wales" today, which appeared to be live today or at least pre recorded this morning as the presenter spoke about the Rugby and had a guest in the studio to discuss the Rugby. I think normally its pre recorded on the Friday. The newsweek presenter also did the evening bulletin, normally its 2 different presenters.
Steve Williams1,999 posts since 1 Aug 2008
News on a Saturday is always haphazard and this applies to the BBC News as well. Their teatime news has been as early as 4:00 on occasion, and in the summer it'll turn up at 7:00. It's obviously scheduled around everything else as even the most news hungry viewer doesn't make a point of tuning in on a Saturday. To suggest anything else based on two Saturdays when there is rugby on in varying timeslots is over exaggerating.


Well, I'm not spitting feathers over it, but it's just rank bad scheduling. ITV haven't bought the rugby just to save it for the nation from Sky, they want to get some advantage from it - but they fritted all that away last Saturday by showing endless trailers. If they're prepared to drop the regional news one week, for no real reason I can see, drop it the other week and make the most of the rugby inheritance. If they can get away with not doing it, use that opportunity.

I know the Beeb shuffle around the news on a Saturday too, but at least there is a logic to the scheduling and they don't shove it in any old place. And the other benefit is that viewers are more inclined to stick with it because there isn't ten minutes of trailers with a tiny bit of local news somewhere in the middle before it.

What this scheduling is saying is, we've got these three programmes in the schedule and we have no interest in anything else so we'll just shove whatever fits between them regardless.
Brekkie27,363 posts since 4 Jan 2003
HTV Wales Wales Today
Seems to be any excuse now - think that's the third time in two months and I suspect they'll abandon it on Grand National Day as well. Wouldn't be surprised to see weekend regional news scrapped completely before long, and if that happens the off-peak weekday bulletins would be next, though I suspect the 6pm programme would be too big a PSB commitment to get rid of - for now anyway.
Shouldn't that have been posted in the "John Logie Baird has Invented Television" thread?