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Brand realignment onwards (October 2009)

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AN
Andrew Founding member
Good to see ITV News giving decent coverage to the Northern snow. I was expecting to have to launch into a north/south devide media bias rant but thankfully not. Good to see Mary live from Manchester
PC
p_c_u_k
Perhaps the wrong thread, but ITV weather seems to be unsponsored on STV while I'm sure I read on here it was sponsored by confused.com on network. Anyone know what's going on?

We had a short trail for a forthcoming STV programme instead, in case anyone's wondering what we're getting.
BR
Brekkie
I guess the new deal only covers ITV plc - STV probably wanted to sort their own out, then found out they couldn't. What's happening with UTV?

Probably discussed elsewhere, but notice on Granada at least the weather has lost it's sponsor.
IN
itv News fan
How come Mary was live in manchester and not Liverpool? ITV News are always live in manchester and not Liverpool, when a big story unfolds about the north.!
NW
nwtv2003
How come Mary was live in manchester and not Liverpool? ITV News are always live in manchester and not Liverpool, when a big story unfolds about the north.!


Not sure why, but Channel 4 News were also Live from the exact same location in Manchester as ITV News tonight.
IN
itv News fan
I seen that and to be honest I was dissapointed with ITN because ITV and Channel 4 News are different programmes so I would have thought that ITN would have reported Channel 4 News from another city or part of the UK.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
I seen that and to be honest I was dissapointed with ITN because ITV and Channel 4 News are different programmes so I would have thought that ITN would have reported Channel 4 News from another city or part of the UK.


That's all well and good in theory but it costs a lot of money. It's far cheaper and easier to pool resources and broadcast from the same location, especially given the circumstances. Don't forget that ITN has a minuscule budget compared to the BBC.

As for why they were in Manchester rather than Liverpool. I was supposed to travel to Liverpool today but couldn't get out of my road. Warrington, St. Helens and Greater Manchester were far more badly affected than Liverpool. That's what I gathered from friends and neighbours who had been in Liverpool today. My guess is they wanted the most dramatic setting for tonight's broadcasts and Manchester got the most snow in the region. I heard from someone in Manchester that they had already had 8 inches of snow when we'd only had 4 inches here. We eventually got up to about 6/7 inches, so I'm guessing Manchester must have had even more. Plus, Manchester is the hub of North West England, so I'm not at all surprised. To be honest, I'm just grateful that ITN made the effort to get up here rather than staying in the South all the time.
DO
dosxuk
I seen that and to be honest I was dissapointed with ITN because ITV and Channel 4 News are different programmes so I would have thought that ITN would have reported Channel 4 News from another city or part of the UK.


They're different programmes on different channels, so they *have* to report from different cities?? Confused
IN
itv News fan
I was going into Liverpool today and a bus ride, which usually takes me 15 minutes took me 2 hours and 20 minutes and that was just to the outside of Liverpool City Centre and every bus and train was taken off aswell! And like I said in one of my previous comments 'ITV News are always live in manchester and not Liverpool, when a big story unfolds about the north.!'
BR
Brekkie
Just be grateful they made it up north and didn't just stick to the story of snow coming in down south.

I don't know how it works behind the scenes with ITV/C4 but very often they use the same location to cover key events - I guess it simply halves the technical costs involved.
BA
bilky asko
JAH posted:
JAH posted:
To the people who were complaining about ITV News apparantly being tabloid with stories about SuBo and The X Factor. The BBC News have just run a story about Doctor Who.


Slightly more cultural significance - David Tennant has arguably created the most famous characterisation (and the most popular) of a cult figure. Susan Boyle is famous for being an ugly woman who can sing.

Sorry - dig at BBC not accepted


It's blatant BBC self-promotion and you know it. At lunchtime Tim Wilcox warned viewers to "get your hankies ready" for tonight's Doctor Who. Such drivel is not newsworthy and should not be included in a news programme.


What you seem to forget is that the news encompasses happenings around the world, and things of interest nationally. Why do people on this forum think that news based upon the entertainment industry isn't news? The BBC are part of this, by having channels containing entertainment. So are ITV. Why is it so unexpected that said channels are promoting their programmes? Surely people who watch the news on a certain channel are likely to watch some of the entertainment on that channel, and are likely to have some interest in the story?

Entertainment news might not be gritty news, but not everyone who watches the news wants to transform into serious mode and absorb half an hour of international and national governmental affairs. Large broadcasters generally try to cater for the majority.

However, if all of you people are so bothered, take some real action. Complain to the BBC and ITV. Contact your local MP. Protest to Number 10. Write a complaint to Ofcom. Do whatever you want.

At least stop having constant tiffs about it on here.


I have no problem with news bulletins covering entertainment stories. The deaths of celebrities, and coverage of digital television and broadband internet, for example, are completely newsworthy. What I, and many others, object to is the obvious self-promotion which is rife within the BBC and ITV. Are you telling me that David Tennant leaving Doctor Who is so groundbreaking that if the show was on ITV, the BBC would still have run that report last night? No, I think not. If Coronation Street came to an end, that would be covered across the board and would be entirely justified. David Tennant's last episode of Doctor Who certainly isn't newsworthy and I stand by my statement that it was blatant self-promotion.


Err - ISTR the winner of most X Factors and Britain's Got Talents are covered by the BBC (albeit in brief, and especially on BBC Three's 60 Seconds)


As much as I dislike those shows, I can see that they are of significance to a lot of people and the result is covered by both broadcasters, as you state. My point is that last night's Doctor Who episode was not important enough to warrant coverage on ITV and my argument is that had Doctor Who been an ITV show, I'm almost certain the BBC would not have covered it. It was self-promotion, pure and simple.


Of course it was self-promotion. That was the point I was making. The BBC will mainly cover BBC programmes - it's the BBC. The problem is, we have no ITV shows that compare to Doctor Who - ITV's only shows popular on that scale are reality shows, so we wouldn't know about the BBC's coverage.
MA
Macalolo
Todays ITV News at 1.30 was very fast moving with the breaking news about the Labour part poll thing. When the camera went to David Harrison and Katie introuduced the live link the camera did not go to David straight away it stayed in the studio with Katie for just a few seconds which sort of looked like her taking a little breathe and a sigh of relief

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