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Brand realignment onwards (October 2009)

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NI
Nicky
I think this is a really difficult one, because there are undoubtedly too many human interest stories and lazy attempts to make stories personal to the viewer. But the reason ITV News focuses on this is because the audience research conducted before the rebrand revealed it was something viewers felt defined and distinguished ITV News from that of the BBC (which audiences told us was authoritative but also dry and aloof).


Sky - whether or not the people questioned thought ITV News was more in touch with viewers is neither here nor there. It doesn't necessarily mean that that they thought it was an aspect of the service that worked well. As the ratings have continually displayed every week since the November 2009 rebrand, the editorial stance used since that time is not working.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who noticed editorial changes to ITV News programmes, and in particular News at Ten, by the end of its 'first' year - i.e., around the time of Trevor's departure and the whole US election craze. As Badger264 has noted, ITV News in 2009 (until September or October) was easily the best it had been for years - many forum members commented on how well NaT was bedding in, how well the human interest was being calmed down, and how ITV News as a whole was becoming more and more similar to how it 'used' to be before the human interest was introduced. And - according to both BARB and MediaGuardian rating summaries - the viewing figures for NaT were increasing as a result of these visible editorial changes.

I can safely say the only ITV News programme I have enjoyed since the November 2009 changes was Election 2010. Odd choice of desk and studio setting (no doubt influenced by the wishes of the ITV lot) but great music, great graphics, great presenters, great coverage overall. As far as the news bulletins go, nothing seems to be working for me at all.

That said, ITV still feels like its missing a ‘big’ bulletin. But I really don’t know what the answer to that is. Bring back the old NAT?


In an ideal world, yes... not just the professional 'look', but the editorial feel as well...

The trouble is that the strategy has totally failed and they seem unable or unwilling to accept that and try something else. [...] their 'strategy' has been an abject failure.


Is the problem on ITN's side, or ITV's side? Or both? Personally, I think that it's on ITV's side. This realignment as pushed by the bosses at ITV isn't working well. If it was, ITV News would be getting healthy ratings more often than one night every two months or something, which is practically the case now. I don't think 'sticking to their guns' is an option anymore. But the faults really do have to be laid at the door of the editor, who is (apparently) ITN through and through.
Last edited by Nicky on 19 February 2011 6:04pm
WA
watchingtv
Watching +1 Terrible delay with John in Manama, Sally repeated her question and he had then just heard her the first time and he stopped and restarted again.

Never heard Sally before but she doesn't seem to have a loud enough voice either. Where is James Mates on a Saturday?

And this weekend it ended really quick with the only credit a Newscaster Sally Biddulph
MA
Macalolo
Watching +1 Terrible delay with John in Manama, Sally repeated her question and he had then just heard her the first time and he stopped and restarted again.

Never heard Sally before but she doesn't seem to have a loud enough voice either. Where is James Mates on a Saturday?

And this weekend it ended really quick with the only credit a Newscaster Sally Biddulph


Noticed that, was quite embarrassing. Also I noticed that the camera shot on Sally going live to Emily Morgan had Sally looking at the wrong camera. This happened again when Sally was introducing a sports story. I imagine the end was rushed due to the delay in the live with John Ray.

I do like Sally as newsreader, much more than Daisy McAndrew but I do agree that she should speak louder. This is the second time that Sally has presented the weekend news recently and on Saturday the presenters are usually Andrea Benfield, Daisy McAndrew or Steve Scott. It would be unusual to see James presenting on a Saturday.
WA
watchingtv
Watching +1 Terrible delay with John in Manama, Sally repeated her question and he had then just heard her the first time and he stopped and restarted again.

Never heard Sally before but she doesn't seem to have a loud enough voice either. Where is James Mates on a Saturday?

And this weekend it ended really quick with the only credit a Newscaster Sally Biddulph


Noticed that, was quite embarrassing. Also I noticed that the camera shot on Sally going live to Emily Morgan had Sally looking at the wrong camera. This happened again when Sally was introducing a sports story. I imagine the end was rushed due to the delay in the live with John Ray.

I do like Sally as newsreader, much more than Daisy McAndrew but I do agree that she should speak louder. This is the second time that Sally has presented the weekend news recently and on Saturday the presenters are usually Andrea Benfield, Daisy McAndrew or Steve Scott. It would be unusual to see James presenting on a Saturday.



James used to work a lot, but I haven't/don't see him on much at all unless he is reporting during the week then I apologise I do not watch ITV News weekdays very much
MA
Macalolo
Watching +1 Terrible delay with John in Manama, Sally repeated her question and he had then just heard her the first time and he stopped and restarted again.

Never heard Sally before but she doesn't seem to have a loud enough voice either. Where is James Mates on a Saturday?

And this weekend it ended really quick with the only credit a Newscaster Sally Biddulph


Noticed that, was quite embarrassing. Also I noticed that the camera shot on Sally going live to Emily Morgan had Sally looking at the wrong camera. This happened again when Sally was introducing a sports story. I imagine the end was rushed due to the delay in the live with John Ray.

I do like Sally as newsreader, much more than Daisy McAndrew but I do agree that she should speak louder. This is the second time that Sally has presented the weekend news recently and on Saturday the presenters are usually Andrea Benfield, Daisy McAndrew or Steve Scott. It would be unusual to see James presenting on a Saturday.



James used to work a lot, but I haven't/don't see him on much at all unless he is reporting during the week then I apologise I do not watch ITV News weekdays very much


James did present the Sunday edition last week and also presented the lunchtime, evening and News at Ten bulletins on Wednesday.
NI
Nicky
ITV censured for taking police quote out of context - Journalism.co.uk
NI
Nicky
(Think we've run out of things to talk about. Laughing )

Spotted a "revised" logo on their Twitter page:

http://i52.tinypic.com/2d0ngv9.png

Hmm, they covered some Wayne and Colleen story this evening. That's a first.
NE
newsatten
Obvioulsy talked about in the RTS thread but relevant here too.

Quote:
News Programme of the Year: ITV News at Ten


Confused
NI
Nicky
Obvioulsy talked about in the RTS thread but relevant here too.

Quote:
News Programme of the Year: ITV News at Ten


Confused


Yeah just what I thought. Wink I think the ITV News Haiti coverage was excellent though, and fully deserved to win. But how come the 'ITV News..... at Ten' wins when it's been really sub-standard for the last couple of years? Apart from certain stories like Haiti, it's been really shoddy stuff.
BP
Bob Paisley
Obvioulsy talked about in the RTS thread but relevant here too.

Quote:
News Programme of the Year: ITV News at Ten


Confused


Yeah just what I thought. Wink I think the ITV News Haiti coverage was excellent though, and fully deserved to win. But how come the 'ITV News..... at Ten' wins when it's been really sub-standard for the last couple of years? Apart from certain stories like Haiti, it's been really shoddy stuff.


Because, in truth, awards ceremonies are an entirely subjective and spurious enterprise.
NE
newsatten
Obvioulsy talked about in the RTS thread but relevant here too.

Quote:
News Programme of the Year: ITV News at Ten


Confused


Yeah just what I thought. Wink I think the ITV News Haiti coverage was excellent though, and fully deserved to win. But how come the 'ITV News..... at Ten' wins when it's been really sub-standard for the last couple of years? Apart from certain stories like Haiti, it's been really shoddy stuff.


Yeah Haiti coverage was great - their on location "big disaster" type coverage with Mark, Bill Neely etc is often top notch and shows that ITV News have still got great reporters etc and CAN be good when it wants to. Didn't Bill/Mark etc also win the RTS award ( or was it the bafta) for the Chinese Earthqake last year?

Wonder how long it'll be before the "RTS News Programme of the Year" on the ITN endcap appears? Tomorrow? Laughing
MA
Macalolo
From Mark Austins twitter " Julie can't tweet tonight, not because she's pissed but because she's left her b'berry in her hotel room. She says thanks." This made me lol , hope to see the pair at 10. Very Happy

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