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Brand realignment onwards (October 2009)

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NE
newsatten
James Mates just announced that there would be no national weather after the Lunchtime News due to a "technical problem".


Thanks for that - was on in the background and I heard him say along the lines of "because of technical problems - we'll try and bring you that by the News at 6:30 " but didn't catch what it was for!
Wonder what's happened.

Edit on another thread from Lucy Mannings twitter -
Quote:
A big power failure at Millbank - All ITN, Sky, BBC political coverage off air. Poss a relief for some


Is the weather done from Milabank?
LL
London Lite Founding member
From ITV Morning News presenter Sascha Williams Twitter:

Quote:
All exciting tonight- change of Location. For one morning only coming from Millbank studios.
BU
buster
Power off in Grays Inn Road early Saturday hence the move. To answer the earlier question - National Weather moved from GIR to Millbank a couple of years back, and the lost forecast was re-inserted at the end of 60 Minute Makeover!
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Presumably Leeds is no longer the back up for national weather with the break-up of the North weather team at YTV and regions having their own weather forecasters again?
AN
Andrew Founding member
People have suggested recently that the ITV Morning News should be moved to 6am to help Daybreak's ratings, but have said that this wouldn't be possible as the ITV Morning News makes up the quota of news programming on the ITV regional stations.

Looking on the licence for Yorkshire Television Limited, it says the following:

"News
The Licensee must broadcast a total of at least 365 hours per calendar
year of high quality national and international news programmes
between 9.25 am and midnight of which at least 125 hours must be
shown in peak viewing time. Programmes must be shown at intervals
throughout the day and appropriate news programmes must be shown
at weekends in peak viewing time and out of peak viewing time and
during public holiday periods."

Therefore unless anyone knows better, the ITV Morning News doesn't count?
EX
excel99
The programme could be moved to 6am, but extra news time would have to be added between 9.25am and 6am to ensure the quota is met.

Or get Ofcom to change the licenses. I personally don't see the ITV Morning News as needed and I'm sure the very little money that is spent on it could be reinvested into the overall ITV News budget. Though as I said it's cheap, and probably isn't worth the hassle of altering. The presenter and crew have to be there anyway to cover overnight breaking news and Daybreak London bulletins
BU
buster
Presumably Leeds is no longer the back up for national weather with the break-up of the North weather team at YTV and regions having their own weather forecasters again?


Dunno - but I think it was only discovered late about the forecast on Friday so there wouldn't have been time to arrange anythinng else.
HO
House
The programme could be moved to 6am, but extra news time would have to be added between 9.25am and 6am to ensure the quota is met.

Or get Ofcom to change the licenses. I personally don't see the ITV Morning News as needed and I'm sure the very little money that is spent on it could be reinvested into the overall ITV News budget. Though as I said it's cheap, and probably isn't worth the hassle of altering. The presenter and crew have to be there anyway to cover overnight breaking news and Daybreak London bulletins


If you'd actually bothered to read the above post you would know the question was about whether the Morning News actually falls within license requirements, as believed, as that wouldn't fall within the 09:25 to 00:00 requirements for news output. I'm not saying the cited paragraph is correct or complete, but if it is presumably the morning news could even be done away, or at least moved to within ITV Breakfast's quota without needing to add time to news elsewhere.
SN
The SNT Three
Maybe one idea would be to move it earlier into the overnight slot, say around 1.00am. Here it would probably gain just as much of an audience from people who stay up late, as it does going out at 5.30 am (I don't know exact figures so this might be a completely silly suggestion). Perhaps adopting a format like ABC World News Now or CBS News Up To The Minute in the United States. I imagine it could get quite a following from people who stay up late, whereas people up early probably don't care what they're watching, and can easily tune into BBC World News on BBC One.

Or - if the news quotas only go up to midnight, scrap it? It doesn't seem to serve much of a purpose if so!
AN
Andrew Founding member
The problem with the licence documents on Ofcom's website is that there are the originals from years ago and then a dozen ammendments in separate documents, so it's not clear what is actually valid today.

I'd tend to agree that I doubt the Morning News counts against the news quota. I can't imagine even ITV trying to get around fulfiling the quota of something as important as news, by transmitting it in the middle of night, especially as it's been the same situation for years.

Maybe they could repeat the previous day's regional news magazines at 5.30am followed by the ITV Morning News at 6am, to avoid having Nightscreen running right to 6am. Would there be any rights or cost implications in repeating regional news at 5.30am?
HO
House
The problem with the licence documents on Ofcom's website is that there are the originals from years ago and then a dozen ammendments in separate documents, so it's not clear what is actually valid today.

I'd tend to agree that I doubt the Morning News counts against the news quota. I can't imagine even ITV trying to get around fulfiling the quota of something as important as news, by transmitting it in the middle of night, especially as it's been the same situation for years.

Maybe they could repeat the previous day's regional news magazines at 5.30am followed by the ITV Morning News at 6am, to avoid having Nightscreen running right to 6am. Would there be any rights or cost implications in repeating regional news at 5.30am?


Only problem with that, as I see it, is do you really want all the mentions of "that's all from us, the ITV Evening News is up next" or to have to slap a "Recorded" sticker on it?
BR
Brekkie
I'd tend to agree that I doubt the Morning News counts against the news quota. I can't imagine even ITV trying to get around fulfiling the quota of something as important as news, by transmitting it in the middle of night, especially as it's been the same situation for years.

Well they did with kids TV, so why wouldn't they with news? It surely must count against some quota as frankly you'd think it would have been axed long ago if it didn't - perhaps it's a condition of them broadcasting overnight or something.

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