It is far more consistent than it ever was during the "News at When" era and ultimately it's what's in the bulletin that matters, not what time it airs.
Of course, but it's frustrating as a viewer turning over to watch the bulletin only to find it's not on. You end up on the BBC.
Let's also not forget it has been moved recently for I'm a Celebrity too.
But it is not just recent era where ITV news at ten moves, I saw a clip on youtube only last night and it was mid 1980's when News At Ten started at 1015 due to a drama and another clip where, again, it started at 1015 because of live football.
Yes it is more frequent nowadays, which shouldn't happen, but the late starts have been around for decades!
But it is not just recent era where ITV news at ten moves, I saw a clip on youtube only last night and it was mid 1980's when News At Ten started at 1015 due to a drama and another clip where, again, it started at 1015 because of live football.
Yes it is more frequent nowadays, which shouldn't happen, but the late starts have been around for decades!
You're conveniently forgetting that News at Ten had little competition back then so those who wanted to watch the news would've ultimately stuck around for it. Since then, ITV news programmes have been thrown up and down the schedule so much that the BBC has easily gained the upper hand in the ratings battle. (ITN bulletins regularly beat the BBC's during the 1970s and 1980s in spite of BBC1 having the earlier 9pm timeslot.)
Delaying the news for live programming is a damn sight more forgivable than moving it to later time slots for pre-recorded entertainment shows or movies, which simply indicates a hilarious lack of commitment - especially when you take into account the massive f**k-up they made in 1999 and the subsequent drop in ratings since then.
ITV is a business, they're still putting out the full bulletin, granted it's annoying when they do it, but at the end of the day it's the most important time of the year for ITV, they have to have the big guns out, if it means the big shows are pre-empting the news bulletins, then (sadly) so be it, and if it increases the ratings for ITV News or the slot it takes (22:30-23:10) then surely it's only a good thing.
After Christmas it'll probably not be shifted at all, the next time it'll be News At When will be when England next play midweek and Britain's Got Talent live shows.
Whichever way you look at this the decision in 1999 was a bad one. They experimented with moving the main established news and it failed. Thankfully it was reinstated in 2008 although I wish they had kept that special format as it was the traditional look. I doubt they will move it again. In fact the weekday news times seem strong now although maybe they should bring back News At One and have a new daytime schedule but that is another topic.
Perhaps if the BBC hadn't muscled in on the slot they'd be less likely to do it.
When the BBC moved the news to ten o'clock, ITV's news was at eleven.
It had already been announced though it was returning to 10pm.
ITV actually won the ratings battle for a number of weeks after NAT's return in 2001, even though the BBC had moved to 10pm some months prior. It was ITV's inconsistency - early/late start times and constant delays for films or entertainment shows - that eventually gave the BBC's 10pm news the upper hand it has today.
The point is that unavoidable delays from live programmes can be forgiven. Even start times of 10:02 or 10:03 aren't that big a deal anymore. But delaying the news by 15-30 minutes for pre-rec entertainment shows just seems tacky. Yes, ITV is a business, but you would think they would have learnt from their mistakes when it comes to news scheduling.
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If it was for any other pre-recorded programme I would agree, but this drama is something else and I think when it comes to this one I think we can let it slide.
If it was for any other pre-recorded programme I would agree, but this drama is something else and I think when it comes to this one I think we can let it slide.
The trouble in 1999, was all down to Carlton TV.
I'd say the total opposite, if the drama doesn't fir the hour (or half hour) slot preceding the news, then it shouldn't be there. A pre-rec entertainment show that delays the news is acceptable IMO.
If it was for any other pre-recorded programme I would agree, but this drama is something else and I think when it comes to this one I think we can let it slide.
The trouble in 1999, was all down to Carlton TV.
I'd say the total opposite, if the drama doesn't fir the hour (or half hour) slot preceding the news, then it shouldn't be there. A pre-rec entertainment show that delays the news is acceptable IMO.
I get the feeling alot of people would highly disagree with you. on this point.