Which set design and titles do you think are best ?
For me, neither. The designs are OK, but I liked the 2003-2004 version better from the "ITV News" route.
As viewers, we have seen newscasters standing up to 'do' the news for, what, 12 years - I say it is about time that newscasters remained at the desk and just let the correspondents walk around. Anyone in agreement?
Nope. Those who think newsreaders sitting down means better quality journalism are very mistaken.
Which set design and titles do you think are best ?
For me, neither. The designs are OK, but I liked the 2003-2004 version better from the "ITV News" route.
As viewers, we have seen newscasters standing up to 'do' the news for, what, 12 years - I say it is about time that newscasters remained at the desk and just let the correspondents walk around. Anyone in agreement?
Which set design and titles do you think are best ?
For me, neither. The designs are OK, but I liked the 2003-2004 version better from the "ITV News" route.
As viewers, we have seen newscasters standing up to 'do' the news for, what, 12 years - I say it is about time that newscasters remained at the desk and just let the correspondents walk around. Anyone in agreement?
Nope. Those who think newsreaders sitting down means better quality journalism are very mistaken.
No, no, no. I was not referencing quality journalism. I was trying to put across that standard news bulletins look more professional if they were sat down. Why? It was quite novel, at first, to see newscasters walking about but it detracts from the actual news... or, at least, it does to me.
Besides, referring to the Virtual Reality News Wall that ITN have, I thought the initial intention was so that they could show diagrams on the floor amongst other things. Now, they stand up in one place and just use the newswall. Again, if sat down, it looks more professional than standing up for no reason.
So what looks more professional - Five News with Natasha Kaplinsky sat down, or Channel 4 News with Jon Snow standing up?
Well it would obviously be Channel 4 News.
You cannot describe Five News as serious news because they bring in "celebrities" such as that girl from the band 'S Club 7' and him from TV's 'Friends' on to plug whatever.
It was quite unique to begin with I
remember when I lived in the North-East on the BBC regional news Look North in the early 1990s, its newscaster Mike Neville used to stand up for the headlines
but seeing as every channel is doing this, it has lost its appeal and looks a mess. The presentation looks better and more serious when newscasters are sitting down.
So what looks more professional - Five News with Natasha Kaplinsky sat down, or Channel 4 News with Jon Snow standing up?
Well it would obviously be Channel 4 News.
You cannot describe Five News as serious news because they bring in "celebrities" such as that girl from the band 'S Club 7' and him from TV's 'Friends' on to plug whatever.
It was quite unique to begin with I
remember when I lived in the North-East on the BBC regional news Look North in the early 1990s, its newscaster Mike Neville used to stand up for the headlines
but seeing as every channel is doing this, it has lost its appeal and looks a mess. The presentation looks better and more serious when newscasters are sitting down.
I think it depends on the shot they use. If its done right then it looks good. On ITV they only show the presenter from the shoulder up which eventually turns into whole body. That looks a mess because of the way they do it and looks even worse with a walkway that looks like its been done on paint. It looked quite good when they had a real walkway. On the BBC the presenter looks like they've just been caught running towards the desk and had to stand still, they're just pointlessly in the middle of the floor. But on Channel 4, it does look good because of the positioning and the camera shot. But overall I don't think standing up adds anything that sitting down does so I don't really think its necessary to do either.
So what looks more professional - Five News with Natasha Kaplinsky sat down, or Channel 4 News with Jon Snow standing up?
Well it would obviously be Channel 4 News.
You cannot describe Five News as serious news because they bring in "celebrities" such as that girl from the band 'S Club 7' and him from TV's 'Friends' on to plug whatever.
It was quite unique to begin with I
remember when I lived in the North-East on the BBC regional news Look North in the early 1990s, its newscaster Mike Neville used to stand up for the headlines
but seeing as every channel is doing this, it has lost its appeal and looks a mess. The presentation looks better and more serious when newscasters are sitting down.
I think it depends on the shot they use. If its done right then it looks good. On ITV they only show the presenter from the shoulder up which eventually turns into whole body. That looks a mess because of the way they do it and looks even worse with a walkway that looks like its been done on paint. It looked quite good when they had a real walkway. On the BBC the presenter looks like they've just been caught running towards the desk and had to stand still, they're just pointlessly in the middle of the floor. But on Channel 4, it does look good because of the positioning and the camera shot. But overall I don't think standing up adds anything that sitting down does so I don't really think its necessary to do either.
ITV's look best on the first day of the relaunch in Feb 2004, when both Mary and Mark walked at the start, and there was a graphic that filled the whole wall, plus the nice bright white walkway. After that day they started messing with it, then it went downhill all the way.
I think it depends on the shot they use. If its done right then it looks good. On ITV they only show the presenter from the shoulder up which eventually turns into whole body. That looks a mess because of the way they do it and looks even worse with a walkway that looks like its been done on paint. It looked quite good when they had a real walkway. On the BBC the presenter looks like they've just been caught running towards the desk and had to stand still, they're just pointlessly in the middle of the floor. But on Channel 4, it does look good because of the positioning and the camera shot. But overall I don't think standing up adds anything that sitting down does so I don't really think its necessary to do either.
Agreed completely - it looks good if they do it properly. I'm all for contemporary news but dislike standing up with a passion, probably because many bulletins do it just for the sake of it (even Calendar News in Yorkshire used to stand up for the beginning of bulletins in 2004/5 for no apparent reason). I'm sure many people think standing up is nonsensical and complain that they just want the news as it is. The only exception for me is Channel 4 News, for some reason the standing up and the camera glides work really well with the studio setting and the theme music. At ITV News though, the standing up does get a bit tiresome - it looked good and worked well back in 2004 in the midst of the 'Powerpoint squares' era but later on became a bit samey. It got to the point where I wanted to see Mark Austin rest his legs for once!
Going off topic for a bit now - I dug out a few tapes I recorded back in September 2005 of ITV's 50th anniversary programmes. One of the tapes was dedicated to the week itself, when former ITN newscasters came back to host the Evening News (I also found some VHS tapes of ITV News coverage during 2003, the start of the Iraq conflict, including some News at Nine with Trevor and John Suchet. Will get round to uploading these on YouTube soon). What struck me with the 2005 bulletins was how different ITV News was just a few years ago - not totally different but markedly so, agenda-wise. Kate Moss featured in every of the five bulletins in a top spot on the agenda, despite being (in my opinion) more un-newsworthy than stories that were shoved after it. It's nice, though, to hear Martyn Lewis and Anna Ford (etc) say things like "it's nice to be back at ITN..." Of course the best bit - some will probably remember this - is Gordon Honeycombe forgetting to read his line on the autocue and waving silently to the camera, with Mary having to sign off from the both of them...
I think it depends on the shot they use. If its done right then it looks good. On ITV they only show the presenter from the shoulder up which eventually turns into whole body. That looks a mess because of the way they do it and looks even worse with a walkway that looks like its been done on paint. It looked quite good when they had a real walkway. On the BBC the presenter looks like they've just been caught running towards the desk and had to stand still, they're just pointlessly in the middle of the floor. But on Channel 4, it does look good because of the positioning and the camera shot. But overall I don't think standing up adds anything that sitting down does so I don't really think its necessary to do either.
Agreed completely - it looks good if they do it properly. I'm all for contemporary news but dislike standing up with a passion, probably because many bulletins do it just for the sake of it (even Calendar News in Yorkshire used to stand up for the beginning of bulletins in 2004/5 for no apparent reason). I'm sure many people think standing up is nonsensical and complain that they just want the news as it is. The only exception for me is Channel 4 News, for some reason the standing up and the camera glides work really well with the studio setting and the theme music. At ITV News though, the standing up does get a bit tiresome - it looked good and worked well back in 2004 in the midst of the 'Powerpoint squares' era but later on became a bit samey. It got to the point where I wanted to see Mark Austin rest his legs for once!
Going off topic for a bit now - I dug out a few tapes I recorded back in September 2005 of ITV's 50th anniversary programmes. One of the tapes was dedicated to the week itself, when former ITN newscasters came back to host the Evening News (I also found some VHS tapes of ITV News coverage during 2003, the start of the Iraq conflict, including some News at Nine with Trevor and John Suchet. Will get round to uploading these on YouTube soon). What struck me with the 2005 bulletins was how different ITV News was just a few years ago - not totally different but markedly so, agenda-wise. Kate Moss featured in every of the five bulletins in a top spot on the agenda, despite being (in my opinion) more un-newsworthy than stories that were shoved after it. It's nice, though, to hear Martyn Lewis and Anna Ford (etc) say things like "it's nice to be back at ITN..." Of course the best bit - some will probably remember this - is Gordon Honeycombe forgetting to read his line on the autocue and waving silently to the camera, with Mary having to sign off from the both of them...
I don't think so. The BBC are covering the Inauguration at 16:00 - 18:00, but ITV are running the normal daytime programmes. Anybody think there will be any extended news programmes on the day ?