The Newsroom

ITV News

Widescreen - Sat 1st Dec (December 2005)

This site closed in March 2021 and is now a read-only archive
JO
Joe
Andrew posted:
itsrobert posted:
Andrew posted:
Although Alistair is popular on here, I don't think it's the case everywhere. Many will not let him forget his drink driving offences. I can see the headlines in the Daily Mail now


That's a bit old hat now, Andrew. I don't see why having a conviction for drink driving has any bearing on him presenting News at Ten.

Neither do I, but you know that some people like to rake up old stuff

From over on Digital Spy this week, you'd think ITV had got Osama Bin Laden to host Police, Camera, Action

Exactly. That's the point Robert - of course it doesn't and shouldn't, but it does for many silly people.
LU
Luke
he's been back in a prominent position at ITN for a few years now with no uproar, so I don't think the drink driving conviction figures in any decision.
NW
nwtv2003
Andrew posted:
itsrobert posted:
Andrew posted:
Although Alistair is popular on here, I don't think it's the case everywhere. Many will not let him forget his drink driving offences. I can see the headlines in the Daily Mail now


That's a bit old hat now, Andrew. I don't see why having a conviction for drink driving has any bearing on him presenting News at Ten.

Neither do I, but you know that some people like to rake up old stuff

From over on Digital Spy this week, you'd think ITV had got Osama Bin Laden to host Police, Camera, Action


Agreed, it is a case of the pot calling the kettle black, but at the end of the day after his first conviction he admitted on the show he did wrong and regretted it, and now on the newer episodes he's been relegated to the introductions, alá Tonight with Trevor McDonald.
TO
Tom0
Andrew posted:
itsrobert posted:
Andrew posted:
Although Alistair is popular on here, I don't think it's the case everywhere. Many will not let him forget his drink driving offences. I can see the headlines in the Daily Mail now


That's a bit old hat now, Andrew. I don't see why having a conviction for drink driving has any bearing on him presenting News at Ten.

Neither do I, but you know that some people like to rake up old stuff

From over on Digital Spy this week, you'd think ITV had got Osama Bin Laden to host Police, Camera, Action


Thats just Digital Spy for you though, they hate everyone, do the slightest thing and you get lynched. The treatment of some people over there is quite harsh, 2 examples being Fiona Phillips and Zezi Ifore, and although I'm not particularly a fan it is extremely OTT.
ST
Stuart
Luke posted:
he's been back in a prominent position at ITN for a few years now with no uproar, so I don't think the drink driving conviction figures in any decision.

Is driving an essential part of reading the news these days? Did I miss something?
JO
Joe
StuartPlymouth posted:
Luke posted:
he's been back in a prominent position at ITN for a few years now with no uproar, so I don't think the drink driving conviction figures in any decision.

Is driving an essential part of reading the news these days? Did I miss something?

That's the point Stuart - of course it isn't and shouldn't matter, but it does for many silly people.

Oooh, I like recycling old posts. That's the second time I've done that. But it's still relevant.
RE
reggieB
[quote="Jugalug"]
StuartPlymouth posted:
Luke posted:
he's been back in a prominent position at ITN for a few years now with no uproar, so I don't think the drink driving conviction figures in any decision.

Is driving an essential part of reading the news these days? Did I miss something?


So exactly which criminal convictions should have an impact on a newsreaders career? If drink-driving (3x over the limit) is OK, what about shoplifting? Burglary? Assault? GBH? I'd be interested to know at what level people think criminality becomes unacceptable.
ST
Stuart
reggieB posted:
So exactly which criminal convictions should have an impact on a newsreaders career? If drink-driving (3x over the limit) is OK, what about shoplifting? Burglary? Assault? GBH? I'd be interested to know at what level people think criminality becomes unacceptable.

Crime is never acceptable, but it is dealt with by the judiciary who decide on the appropriate penalty. It is then quite wrong for the media to retry somebody in the court of public opinion. Perhaps you are also an advocate of vigilante lynch mobs?
IT
itsrobert Founding member
StuartPlymouth posted:
reggieB posted:
So exactly which criminal convictions should have an impact on a newsreaders career? If drink-driving (3x over the limit) is OK, what about shoplifting? Burglary? Assault? GBH? I'd be interested to know at what level people think criminality becomes unacceptable.

Crime is never acceptable, but it is dealt with by the judiciary who decide on the appropriate penalty. It is then quite wrong for the media to retry somebody in the court of public opinion. Perhaps you are also an advocate of vigilante lynch mobs?


I agree. For many petty crimes, I believe that as soon as you have served your time, paid your fine or done the community service, you should have a clean slate. It's not fair to forever label someone as a criminal because of one or two incidents. OK, if you are an habitual criminal or have committed a serious crime (murder, sexual crimes, etc.) then labelling is fair enough as you're likely to be a danger to others and may not be suitable for certain jobs. As far as Alastair Stewart is concerned, I think it's ridiculous. His drink driving conviction is in the past now and that's where it should stay. It has no bearing on his suitability to present the news and anyone who brings it up is, frankly, out of line.
RE
reggieB
itsrobert posted:
StuartPlymouth posted:
reggieB posted:
So exactly which criminal convictions should have an impact on a newsreaders career? If drink-driving (3x over the limit) is OK, what about shoplifting? Burglary? Assault? GBH? I'd be interested to know at what level people think criminality becomes unacceptable.

Crime is never acceptable, but it is dealt with by the judiciary who decide on the appropriate penalty. It is then quite wrong for the media to retry somebody in the court of public opinion. Perhaps you are also an advocate of vigilante lynch mobs?


I agree. For many petty crimes, I believe that as soon as you have served your time, paid your fine or done the community service, you should have a clean slate. It's not fair to forever label someone as a criminal because of one or two incidents. OK, if you are an habitual criminal or have committed a serious crime (murder, sexual crimes, etc.) then labelling is fair enough as you're likely to be a danger to others and may not be suitable for certain jobs. As far as Alastair Stewart is concerned, I think it's ridiculous. His drink driving conviction is in the past now and that's where it should stay. It has no bearing on his suitability to present the news and anyone who brings it up is, frankly, out of line.


Interesting to classify drink driving as 'petty' crime. Would it seem that way if you were the victim of it? Burglary doesn't kill, drink driving kills hundreds every year. If Huw Edwards was convicted of breaking and entering, can anyone really imagine he'd still be reading the Ten O'Clock News? Of course not. The thing about drink-driving is that it's a "there but for the grace of God go I" crime. Most people have done it, most people haven't been caught. Alastair's "crime", in many people's eyes, was that he got caught. Look at John Leslie - convicted (so far) of absolutely nothing, and yet completely unemployable. Yet Alastair still presents a preachy programme about how to behave on the roads! How can it be 'out of line' to mention this? Smacks of shooting the messenger.
JO
Jonathan
Lucy Owen was charged with driving well over the speed limit a couple of years ago.

However, she wormed her way out of that by claiming she had a stalker and needed to drive quicker than usual in order to keep him at bay.
JW
JamesWorldNews
ITN Tribute, with credits to the author.

Nice to see how people have changed over the years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkPKR0wTbKU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLJdLTqzhPI&feature=related

Newer posts