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Widescreen - Sat 1st Dec (December 2005)

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JH
Jonathan H
Tom0 posted:
At 10pm at night I don't think there is much flexibility for how to write news which has happened during the day and been shown on bulletins not just on the same channel but on all channels. The bottom line is all news is the same, its just how its presented that is different so something which you might find on ITV Evening News could find its way onto BBC 10pm News but presented slightly differently. To be honest, News at Ten is just News at Ten Thirty except with new hosts, different graphics and a new theme tune. You can give a news program a makeover like that but its impossible to change the content.

I think what you mean is it's not possible to change the facts about a story. At least, it shouldn't be! How the same story is written and presented on other channels will often be very different indeed. ITV News does indeed differ to BBC News, and both of those are very different to Channel 4 News. So all in all, not sure I agree with you, really!
EJ
EJNutz
Londoner posted:
How long has Tim Ewart been a political correspondent?


Since the beginning of January, this year
TO
Tom0
Jonathan H posted:
Tom0 posted:
At 10pm at night I don't think there is much flexibility for how to write news which has happened during the day and been shown on bulletins not just on the same channel but on all channels. The bottom line is all news is the same, its just how its presented that is different so something which you might find on ITV Evening News could find its way onto BBC 10pm News but presented slightly differently. To be honest, News at Ten is just News at Ten Thirty except with new hosts, different graphics and a new theme tune. You can give a news program a makeover like that but its impossible to change the content.

I think what you mean is it's not possible to change the facts about a story. At least, it shouldn't be! How the same story is written and presented on other channels will often be very different indeed. ITV News does indeed differ to BBC News, and both of those are very different to Channel 4 News. So all in all, not sure I agree with you, really!


Thats what I mean, I'm just rubbish at wording I do apologise.

After all of that, my point is that I don't think items on News at Ten are any different to how ITV News present them so obviously stories will be recycled.
LO
Londoner
Tom0 posted:
Thats what I mean, I'm just rubbish at wording I do apologise.

After all of that, my point is that I don't think items on News at Ten are any different to how ITV News present them so obviously stories will be recycled.


Of course there is an overlap between the Evening News and NaT- but I would argue that there is significant difference in both story choice and story treatment.
TO
Tom0
The only difference I see is that the Evening News sensationalise stories. I suppose that is quite a big difference though Embarassed Laughing
PR
Primetime
Why is the ITV News Summary at 11.55am using the Evening News backdrop?
TO
Tom0
Nina presenting the weekend bulletins for the second or third consecutive week. Looks like they have finally got a proper weekend anchor. All they need to do is sort the times out. They have been OK today and last week, but ITV are up to their old tricks again next week splitting a film around the news!
BR
Brekkie
Primetime TV posted:
Why is the ITV News Summary at 11.55am using the Evening News backdrop?


Knowing ITV lately that probably was the "Evening" news! Wink


Tom0 posted:
Nina presenting the weekend bulletins for the second or third consecutive week. Looks like they have finally got a proper weekend anchor. All they need to do is sort the times out. They have been OK today and last week, but ITV are up to their old tricks again next week splitting a film around the news!



They're doing it tonight too -starting a film at 11.05pm with the news at 11.45pm, rather than playing the news out at 11.05pm and then the film at 11.20pm, which would be the sensible thing to do for both news fans and film fans.


The weekend regional news situation is pathetic though - and if it is a case of putting the "evening" edition on earlier and earlier to cut the hours between the "lunchtime" and "evening" edition, I'd rather see the lunchtime edition axed in return for a guarantee the "evening" edition airs no earlier than 5pm.
JE
Jez Founding member
Yeah id go along with that - the lunchtime regional bulletin is no longer than 5 minutes anyway so id prefer them to axe it if that meant the Evening bulletin got a decent slot. Today it was at 3.35pm, and before now its been as early as 2.40pm which is ridiculous.
PR
Primetime
The news in my area was called 'North East Tonight ' at 3.35pm... I'd rather they axe the lunchtime bulletin too. Do ITV have to air a lunchtime bulletin at the weekend or is it up to ITV1 when they air it?
AN
Andrew Founding member
Yes, a rule that says ITV 'must show 35 minutes of regional news at weekends of which 30 minutes must be aired between 5pm and 7pm' would be a good one

This would give the option of keeping the lunchtime bulletin if they wanted or ideally providing 20 mins on Sundays so they can have an extended football round up and have time for more than one news story as well
TO
Tom0
I don't see why ITV just don't opt for three half hour news blocks around 12pm or 1pm, then again between 5pm and 7pm with a further one at around 11pm. Surely its not that big of a loss commercially of what they could get? Its not as though they're taking ratings bankers off air for the news.

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