ITV has always been leagues ahead of the BBC in terms of it's weekend regional news - generally a lunchtime 5 minute and an evening 15 minute bulletin compared to just a 5 minute evening summary on the BBC.
The Saturday evening ITV bulletin also has the advantage of being able to show some Football League highlights from one of the days local games, whereas the BBC can't. I know this goes down well with a lot of football fans.
With no sport highlights to show at 2.45pm, thats an extra 2 / 3 mins of news to fill!
Brekkie Boy posted:
It is exactly why OFCOM need to step in and say, hey - it's about time we put those regional franchises up for auction again - and made ITV realised if they want to keep their big hitters on "Channel 3", they've got to keep their responsibilities too.
It is exactly why OFCOM need to step in and say, hey - it's about time we put those regional franchises up for auction again - and made ITV realised if they want to keep their big hitters on "Channel 3", they've got to keep their responsibilities too.
Weekend news on ITV in general has been appalling lately, but this latest scheduling of the regional news is killing one of it's key strengths.
ITV has always been leagues ahead of the BBC in terms of it's weekend regional news - generally a lunchtime 5 minute and an evening 15 minute bulletin compared to just a 5 minute evening summary on the BBC.
But as people say, it's being killed off by the scheduling - and quite deliberately too. I said when the regional news was taken out of the ITV News programmes that it seemed to be the first step in ITV's strategy to rid itself of local news - and this weekend business is just another part of a dirty campaign ITV is waging.
It is exactly why OFCOM need to step in and say, hey - it's about time we put those regional franchises up for auction again - and made ITV realised if they want to keep their big hitters on "Channel 3", they've got to keep their responsibilities too.
If they are going to step in on ITV for their regional news, then its only fair they do the same with the BBC and the government fund another corporation to be the main PSB such as Channel 4.
If they are going to step in on ITV for their regional news, then its only fair they do the same with the BBC and the government fund another corporation to be the main PSB such as Channel 4.
what exactly has the BBC done wrong with regional news?
If they are going to step in on ITV for their regional news, then its only fair they do the same with the BBC and the government fund another corporation to be the main PSB such as Channel 4.
what exactly has the BBC done wrong with regional news?
The poster who suggested each regional franchise is aucitioned off to teach them a lesson even said the problem with BBC regional news, although only ITV should be auctioned off ...
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ITV has always been leagues ahead of the BBC in terms of it's weekend regional news - generally a lunchtime 5 minute and an evening 15 minute bulletin compared to just a 5 minute evening summary on the BBC.
ITV show far much more news coverage than the BBC at the weekend and show much more regional news. If ITV was to be auctioned off because of not showing enough regional news at particular times etc then its only fair the BBC franchise goes up for auction as well, as they have a 5 minute summary just before 6pm and ITV show about half an hours worth of regional news throughout the day.
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The itv news website has finally got a decent logo and has been joined by the new news at ten logo. Also the countdown has seconds now.
It is exactly why OFCOM need to step in and say, hey - it's about time we put those regional franchises up for auction again - and made ITV realised if they want to keep their big hitters on "Channel 3", they've got to keep their responsibilities too.
Or less radically, just make a rule that regional news must be broadcast after 5pm at weekends
I'd also suggest dropping the lunchtime bulletin, it's generally only about 4 minutes long
If they are going to step in on ITV for their regional news, then its only fair they do the same with the BBC and the government fund another corporation to be the main PSB such as Channel 4.
what exactly has the BBC done wrong with regional news?
The poster who suggested each regional franchise is aucitioned off to teach them a lesson even said the problem with BBC regional news, although only ITV should be auctioned off ...
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ITV has always been leagues ahead of the BBC in terms of it's weekend regional news - generally a lunchtime 5 minute and an evening 15 minute bulletin compared to just a 5 minute evening summary on the BBC.
ITV show far much more news coverage than the BBC at the weekend and show much more regional news. If ITV was to be auctioned off because of not showing enough regional news at particular times etc then its only fair the BBC franchise goes up for auction as well, as they have a 5 minute summary just before 6pm and ITV show about half an hours worth of regional news throughout the day.
You're obviously not quite getting my point and perhaps not quite understanding the history of the BBC and ITV either...
Firstly - my point is that yes ITV have generally as long as I can remember always provided a better regional news service at weekends than the BBC - but recently this has been deliberately jeopardised by some very questionable scheduling where one weeks "evening" bulletin airs earlier than last weeks "lunchtime" summary.
I believe it is a ploy by ITV to get the regulators to allow them to drop their commitment to regional news - and I believe that was also a factor in pulling the regional news out of the main ITV News programmes at lunchtime and night too - they're inviting viewers to turn off after the national news so that they can claim less people are watching the regional news.
The BBC isn't a franchise to be auctioned off - historically with the BBC regional content has basically been a top down approach - one organisation dividing itself up into regions to provide the service.
ITV was set up as a network of regional stations, not a national station, and regional content was a key point of this up until the late nineties at least, and even when ITV plc began to take over region by region, regional news at least had up until quite recently still been very important to the channel.
Recent moves - both the plans to slash the number of regions and the dirty tactics ITV appear to be playing with their scheduling - suggest ITV want to rid themselves of this commitment.
Which is why, as happened every decade or so up until 1992, the ITV franchises should be put up for auction. The right to broadcast on channel 3, whether digitally or on analogue, comes with responsibilities - the most obvious of which being at a regional level.
And if ITV aren't willing to continue, they're position on the EPG, they're gifted Freeview space and their 15 or so regions should be advertised to allow those who would be the opportunity to take on those responsibilities.
I am fully aware of the auction system for the franchises and I know the BBC was set up first, and by the government as Britains main PSB and has never had to go through the auctioning process. They were always safe. ITV may have regional news allover, but they give over 4 times more coverage on a Saturday than the BBC. My point is, the BBC do not need to advertise so do not need ratings as much as ITV do so you can see why ITV want to drop their regional news. If OFCOM did auction off Channel 3 for their treatment of regional news, then it is only fair that they do something equally as "punishing" to the BBC e.g, auction off their channels as well, or maybe their Freeview multiplex or make the government withdraw funding and put it elsewhere.
ITV treat regional news a whole lot better than the BBC at the weekend, and that is really saying something.
To be honest, who actually watches the news at the weekend anyway?
So with News at Ten back on Monday does anyone think that there will be any changes to the set of the other news programmes, afterall they can't keep using that fake walkway, it is hideous, and was only designed as a temporary measure.