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Those are really nice - though I suspect they'd avoid transparent glass/perspex panels, as the effect would be mainly lost in a CSO/Chroma Key virtual studio.
noggin
Founding member
GMc posted:
If the studio was to be tweaked, I would love to see something like Lee's mocks back in November 2005:
http://www.leeseaman.com/tvidents/mocks/itv/news/5NOV05/studio_01.jpg
http://www.leeseaman.com/tvidents/mocks/itv/news/5NOV05/studio_02.jpg
http://www.leeseaman.com/tvidents/mocks/itv/news/5NOV05/studio_03.jpg
Again these are probably too much like the Sky News set (or more of a regional set, if Sky had regions), but this is the kind of thing I'd do to make the ITV studio seem less empty. Desks or a newsroom area wouldn't work in the ITV News studio because its too small. They'd only be able to fit about 4-8 desks in there, and it would look daft.
As ITV News have virtual reality capabilities, it wouldn't be too difficult to put a mini news wall on the front of the desk. I'd much prefer something real, or maybe at least two big screens at either end of the big news wall, so that when talking to someone away from the studio they can at least see who they're talking to, instead of trying to fool the viewers.
Currently, at the start of the programme the presenters walk down the catwalk - Mary to the desk, Mark only half way. In this set, they would do the headlines from the same place (the middle of the news wall), but after the logo forms or the titles there would be a wide shot like below. Mark would walk to the left to do the first story, Mary to right and round to the desk (which does not spin!).
http://www.leeseaman.com/tvidents/mocks/itv/news/5NOV05/studio_04.jpg
Lee posted:
http://www.leeseaman.com/tvidents/mocks/itv/news/5NOV05/studio_01.jpg
http://www.leeseaman.com/tvidents/mocks/itv/news/5NOV05/studio_02.jpg
http://www.leeseaman.com/tvidents/mocks/itv/news/5NOV05/studio_03.jpg
Again these are probably too much like the Sky News set (or more of a regional set, if Sky had regions), but this is the kind of thing I'd do to make the ITV studio seem less empty. Desks or a newsroom area wouldn't work in the ITV News studio because its too small. They'd only be able to fit about 4-8 desks in there, and it would look daft.
As ITV News have virtual reality capabilities, it wouldn't be too difficult to put a mini news wall on the front of the desk. I'd much prefer something real, or maybe at least two big screens at either end of the big news wall, so that when talking to someone away from the studio they can at least see who they're talking to, instead of trying to fool the viewers.
Currently, at the start of the programme the presenters walk down the catwalk - Mary to the desk, Mark only half way. In this set, they would do the headlines from the same place (the middle of the news wall), but after the logo forms or the titles there would be a wide shot like below. Mark would walk to the left to do the first story, Mary to right and round to the desk (which does not spin!).
http://www.leeseaman.com/tvidents/mocks/itv/news/5NOV05/studio_04.jpg
Those are really nice - though I suspect they'd avoid transparent glass/perspex panels, as the effect would be mainly lost in a CSO/Chroma Key virtual studio.
:-(
From MG at the festival
"The ITV chief also responded to reports that ITV executive chairman Michael Grade wants to move the 10.30pm ITV1 news.
Mr Shaps admitted that 10.30pm "seems an imperfect place", but said it is "incredibly difficult" to see where else in the schedule to put the late evening bulletin.
He confirmed that changes are being made to the style of the bulletin, as revealed by MediaGuardian.co.uk, saying: "We've pushed some of the gimmickry too far."
"The ITV chief also responded to reports that ITV executive chairman Michael Grade wants to move the 10.30pm ITV1 news.
Mr Shaps admitted that 10.30pm "seems an imperfect place", but said it is "incredibly difficult" to see where else in the schedule to put the late evening bulletin.
He confirmed that changes are being made to the style of the bulletin, as revealed by MediaGuardian.co.uk, saying: "We've pushed some of the gimmickry too far."
JR
I honestly can't imagine the current music being appropriate if, say, an animal rights extremist blew up Canary Wharf killing hundreds. Just an example, but it really wouldn't be appropriate.
My favourite version was the 1996 music, but then again the drum fills on the 1999 set was also very dramatic. It would also be quite nice to have an announcer introducing the presenter's name etc - eg "From ITN, the ITV News at Ten with Geraint Vincent".
And I hate to be picky again, but shouldn't the 'bongs' actually be bang on the hour, ie as if they were a live audio feed from Westminster?
My favourite version was the 1996 music, but then again the drum fills on the 1999 set was also very dramatic. It would also be quite nice to have an announcer introducing the presenter's name etc - eg "From ITN, the ITV News at Ten with Geraint Vincent".
And I hate to be picky again, but shouldn't the 'bongs' actually be bang on the hour, ie as if they were a live audio feed from Westminster?
AN
But doesn't the music to BBC News feature an explosion at the start?
Out of all arguments, saying that a news programme's music is 'too dramatic' is one of the weakest I've ever heard. Maybe they should go with an jolly twee one like the one ITN used in the 70s
Andrew
Founding member
jrothwell97 posted:
I honestly can't imagine the current music being appropriate if, say, an animal rights extremist blew up Canary Wharf killing hundreds. Just an example, but it really wouldn't be appropriate
Out of all arguments, saying that a news programme's music is 'too dramatic' is one of the weakest I've ever heard. Maybe they should go with an jolly twee one like the one ITN used in the 70s
JR
But doesn't the music to BBC News feature an explosion at the start?
Not because of the 'explosions', but because it feels like it's lost a lot of its severity and charm, and because it's weak and watery. It's anything but dramatic.
Andrew posted:
jrothwell97 posted:
I honestly can't imagine the current music being appropriate if, say, an animal rights extremist blew up Canary Wharf killing hundreds. Just an example, but it really wouldn't be appropriate
Not because of the 'explosions', but because it feels like it's lost a lot of its severity and charm, and because it's weak and watery. It's anything but dramatic.
JO
Well, its a good thing they are going for more of a formal approach, leaving the gimmicks behind. Listening to the pre-2004 music I actually think its very good now, authoritative and formal. The 2004 music was very modern, but lacked in these. The current music, still lacks in this. The titles are worse. I dont think the music can get better than the BBC's, but if the News at Ten is coming back, they need something more like what it was.
I also think the studio looks very tired, it was good at first, however now it seems even the people who designed it have lost faith in it, it was designed to be stood up in, and if these changes are going ahead, its doing the complete oppisite to what it was designed for!
I also think the studio looks very tired, it was good at first, however now it seems even the people who designed it have lost faith in it, it was designed to be stood up in, and if these changes are going ahead, its doing the complete oppisite to what it was designed for!
BS
Good to Lucy Meacock back on the National News again, is she doing it Tomorrow too.?.