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Widescreen - Sat 1st Dec (December 2005)

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DA
Davidjb Founding member
Jonathan H posted:
Londoner posted:
itsrobert posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
would he have changed studios or was the background image just changed for the London one?

It is the same studio. They just changed the background image to the London skyline.

If it was the same studio, it was studio 4, the London studio - as there was a wideshot at the start of London Today.

That must mean they have the ability to project green behind him to key in the national background.


They could have just projected the national background in the same was as the London skyline.
BR
Brekkie
Or sat him in the London studio half an hour earlier just to get the opening shot - though that be a bit pointless!
NG
noggin Founding member
Jonathan H posted:
Londoner posted:
itsrobert posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
would he have changed studios or was the background image just changed for the London one?

It is the same studio. They just changed the background image to the London skyline.

If it was the same studio, it was studio 4, the London studio - as there was a wideshot at the start of London Today.

That must mean they have the ability to project green behind him to key in the national background.


Generating a green matte on a vision mixer is not the most difficult task in the world! (Many studios use this technique to do a "quick and dirty" CSO using a projector. Other studios may have LED ligthing that can be switched from tasteful art to CSO blue or green!)
JH
Jonathan H
noggin posted:
Jonathan H posted:
Londoner posted:
itsrobert posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
would he have changed studios or was the background image just changed for the London one?

It is the same studio. They just changed the background image to the London skyline.

If it was the same studio, it was studio 4, the London studio - as there was a wideshot at the start of London Today.

That must mean they have the ability to project green behind him to key in the national background.

Generating a green matte on a vision mixer is not the most difficult task in the world! (Many studios use this technique to do a "quick and dirty" CSO using a projector. Other studios may have LED ligthing that can be switched from tasteful art to CSO blue or green!)

Yes, I didn't mean that inserting plain green into a projector is dfficult, I meant that even once you've done that, you aren't guaranteed to get an even key signal because of hot-spot issues with many projectors. I think it probably was keyed, as the national background in those grabs doesn't look 'projected' - it looks keyed in.
NG
noggin Founding member
Jonathan H posted:
noggin posted:
Jonathan H posted:
Londoner posted:
itsrobert posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
would he have changed studios or was the background image just changed for the London one?

It is the same studio. They just changed the background image to the London skyline.

If it was the same studio, it was studio 4, the London studio - as there was a wideshot at the start of London Today.

That must mean they have the ability to project green behind him to key in the national background.

Generating a green matte on a vision mixer is not the most difficult task in the world! (Many studios use this technique to do a "quick and dirty" CSO using a projector. Other studios may have LED ligthing that can be switched from tasteful art to CSO blue or green!)

Yes, I didn't mean that inserting plain green into a projector is dfficult, I meant that even once you've done that, you aren't guaranteed to get an even key signal because of hot-spot issues with many projectors. I think it probably was keyed, as the national background in those grabs doesn't look 'projected' - it looks keyed in.


These days most mixers have quite a "forgiving" chroma-keyer - and projectors have improved quite a lot, the key thing is to keep the matte at a low enough luminance that you get reasonably decent saturation remains constant, if the hotspot causes burnout the saturation drops...
SP
Steve in Pudsey
hard to make any definitive judgements from the caps but the two stills do look to be lit or racked slightly differently, the colours are a little more vibrant in the national bulletin than the local one, but there could be any number of reasons for that.
LO
LONDON
The lunchtime news yesterday was broadcast from the London Today studio. Haveing watched the bulletin in 4:3 you can see the silver outline of the projector and the blue lighting right at the bottom of the shot.

It is not the first time the nationals have broadcast from the London Today studio, back in the days of the News channel the weekend lunchtime editions on itv 1 were quite often done from the London Today studio.
NG
noggin Founding member
Steve in Pudsey posted:
hard to make any definitive judgements from the caps but the two stills do look to be lit or racked slightly differently, the colours are a little more vibrant in the national bulletin than the local one, but there could be any number of reasons for that.


If one of them is a chroma key then don't forget that there could be some hue-supression/chroma-cancelling going on on the chroma key version. Also racks/lighting may have been "helping out" the chroma key!
JO
Joshua
Few problems on the Top Stories there, we got to the second story and here in North East we got cut off, seeing our presenter for about 10 seconds, he then started talking, it moved to the second story, he got cut off, replaced with the ITV News sting, which didnt play for the first couple of seconds!
JH
Jonathan H
josh205 posted:
Few problems on the Top Stories there, we got to the second story and here in North East we got cut off, seeing our presenter for about 10 seconds, he then started talking, it moved to the second story, he got cut off, replaced with the ITV News sting, which didnt play for the first couple of seconds!

That's a regional switching error.
AN
all new Phil
Doesn't the London set have a CSO screen for the weather?
JA
Jamesypoo
The national studio doesn't have one and the national weather is done from the London Today studio.

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