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Widescreen - Sat 1st Dec (December 2005)

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JE
Jez Founding member
Andrew Tyne Tees posted:
I think it is wrong that they are keeping the Lunchtime News as a two presenter format. It just need's one presenter, and that presenter should be Katie. With Alistar doing the Nightly News (and not the Lunch with Katie), instead of Mark who should just do the Evening News.

I agree with that. The lunch doesnt need 2 presenters now it is back to a 30 minute bulletin (including regional opt out).

I also dont understand why Mark needs 2 bulletins a day.
BR
Brekkie
Jez posted:
Andrew Tyne Tees posted:
I think it is wrong that they are keeping the Lunchtime News as a two presenter format. It just need's one presenter, and that presenter should be Katie. With Alistar doing the Nightly News (and not the Lunch with Katie), instead of Mark who should just do the Evening News.

I agree with that. The lunch doesnt need 2 presenters now it is back to a 30 minute bulletin (including regional opt out).

I also dont understand why Mark needs 2 bulletins a day.


Definately agree with Katie flying solo at lunch though - but I wouldn't replace Mark at 10.30pm for the sake of doing it.


Probably contradicting myself with the BBC thread here, but ever since Mark took on the 10.30pm bulletin I've thought that Mary should host the Evening News alone, with Mark only involved when standing in for Mary (about 4 days a week then! Wink ) and when anchoring on location.
JE
Jez Founding member
Brekkie Boy posted:
Jez posted:
Andrew Tyne Tees posted:
I think it is wrong that they are keeping the Lunchtime News as a two presenter format. It just need's one presenter, and that presenter should be Katie. With Alistar doing the Nightly News (and not the Lunch with Katie), instead of Mark who should just do the Evening News.

I agree with that. The lunch doesnt need 2 presenters now it is back to a 30 minute bulletin (including regional opt out).

I also dont understand why Mark needs 2 bulletins a day.


Definately agree with Katie flying solo at lunch though - but I wouldn't replace Mark at 10.30pm for the sake of doing it.


Probably contradicting myself with the BBC thread here, but ever since Mark took on the 10.30pm bulletin I've thought that Mary should host the Evening News alone, with Mark only involved when standing in for Mary (about 4 days a week then! Wink ) and when anchoring on location.


Yes but I think its acceptable to have 2 presenters on the Evening since its a full half hour bulletin. The lunch and late have regional opt outs.

Mary even did a Friday the other week Shocked
BR
Brekkie
Going over old ground here, but with todays news that Sky News will effectively be ditched from Freeview, do you think that the very slim chance of the ITV News Channel ever returning has just put on a bit of weight?
PR
Primetime
Razz
I really do hope the ITV News Channel does come back one day.. but I'm not sure it will however.
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FG
Funky Guy
That was a funny goodbye from James Mates tonight. Surprised "and if you were thinking that was the news tonight you were right good bye" Razz
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
Jonathan H posted:
Gavin Scott posted:
JayKingDoire posted:
Can anyone explain to me how on the ITV News bulletins we can see the backdrop of the newswall reflected onto the newsdesk? Isn't the newswall a green screen? As a newcomer to looking at how ITV News and other news rpogrammes are produced I would like to know!

The "reflections" in the desktop are generated by the same software which creates the newswall.

The software knows where the surface of the desk is supposed to be, and creates an inverted image in that area. The green is reflected on the desk surface providing a keying surface for the reflected background to appear on.

Very clever system.

Er, nearly right but not quite. This has been covered on here several times before. If I remember correctly, it's not that the software has to know where the desk is. It's simply that any green reflection below the actual wall must by definition be a reflection and so an inverted wall image is keyed on.

Still clever though.


Oh. Are you quite sure? How does that work on a low shot when the desk surface is above the line of the wall? I've certainly seen surface plotting techniques discussed on this board.
JH
Jonathan H
Gavin Scott posted:
Jonathan H posted:
Gavin Scott posted:
JayKingDoire posted:
Can anyone explain to me how on the ITV News bulletins we can see the backdrop of the newswall reflected onto the newsdesk? Isn't the newswall a green screen? As a newcomer to looking at how ITV News and other news rpogrammes are produced I would like to know!

The "reflections" in the desktop are generated by the same software which creates the newswall.

The software knows where the surface of the desk is supposed to be, and creates an inverted image in that area. The green is reflected on the desk surface providing a keying surface for the reflected background to appear on.

Very clever system.

Er, nearly right but not quite. This has been covered on here several times before. If I remember correctly, it's not that the software has to know where the desk is. It's simply that any green reflection below the actual wall must by definition be a reflection and so an inverted wall image is keyed on.

Still clever though.

Oh. Are you quite sure? How does that work on a low shot when the desk surface is above the line of the wall? I've certainly seen surface plotting techniques discussed on this board.

The desk surface rarely seems to be seen below the line of the wall for that very reason, but if it is, you can sometime catch the wall itself reflected, rather than an inverted image.
BP
Bob Paisley
Brekkie Boy posted:
Going over old ground here, but with todays news that Sky News will effectively be ditched from Freeview, do you think that the very slim chance of the ITV News Channel ever returning has just put on a bit of weight?


No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It will never happen (apart from the sort of online/mobile phone summary they're experimenting with). ITV won't pay for it - it wouldn't make any money. It will never, ever happen.
JH
Jonathan H
Brekkie Boy posted:
Going over old ground here, but with todays news that Sky News will effectively be ditched from Freeview, do you think that the very slim chance of the ITV News Channel ever returning has just put on a bit of weight?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

And no. It's not musical news-channel chairs: when one runs into trouble another starts up to take its place. The financial reasons why the ITV News Channel closed remain unchanged by any news about any other channel. In fact, speculation might lead one to conclude that similar reasons are behind the Sky News announcement. Perhaps.
BR
Brekkie
Bob Paisley posted:
Brekkie Boy posted:
Going over old ground here, but with todays news that Sky News will effectively be ditched from Freeview, do you think that the very slim chance of the ITV News Channel ever returning has just put on a bit of weight?


No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It will never happen (apart from the sort of online/mobile phone summary they're experimenting with). ITV won't pay for it - it wouldn't make any money. It will never, ever happen.


So you think it's a strong possibility then? Laughing



Did you see that American arsehole on the news tonight - that friend of that killer pilot? That was far more offensive than anything Jade Goody ever said!
LO
Londoner
Jonathan H posted:
The desk surface rarely seems to be seen below the line of the wall for that very reason, but if it is, you can sometime catch the wall itself reflected, rather than an inverted image.

The odd-shaped desk they installed for the 2005 election meant that this happened more often than usual, as this cap shows:
http://www.dolben.demon.co.uk/newschannel/lwaselection1.jpg

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