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Widescreen - Sat 1st Dec (December 2005)

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LU
Luke
JosephB posted:
I think the China stuff they are doing is fascinating. People might argue it's not news, well it's a different type of news and I'm finding it much more interesting than your plain order-of-importance daily events sequence.


I agree, it is a nice change.

I think the 6 O'Clock news prefers sending Natasha Kaplinsky around the country to mix with 'common folk' for a week.
OH
ohwhatanight Founding member
I have watched a fair bit of news over the last two days and I am quite surprised by what I have seen!

Firstly ITV News couldn't have timed it any better to open their Beijing Bureau. They did make history by being the first to present from that location. The News At 10:30 that night also presented live from the same location but it seemed that EVERY item had a presenter somewhere live - Mark Austin handed over to people scattered all around the world and the Uk. It was quite an impressive feat!

I also watched yesterday's BBC News at Ten and had misconceptions that it was going to be much better than it was! Items seemed to miss-roll, audio jingles were played when not required and the whole bulletin didnt feel inclusive or that professional. It was all a bit slap-dash and Huw Edwards didn't make proceedings run any smoother.

The first I heard of the snooker player, Paul Hunter's death was around 10pm last night and so intentionally watched both news programmes to see if this breaking news was mentioned. Neither programme mentioned the sad story. ITV News seemed to have a very strong editorial lead and long features whereas BBC News started off quite strong but petered out with news of the YouTube buyout amongst others.

ITV News have now proved that they can still give us a really strong news programme and contain a lot of serious well-produced news.
TW
Time Warp
ohwhatanight posted:
I have watched a fair bit of news over the last two days and I am quite surprised by what I have seen!

Firstly ITV News couldn't have timed it any better to open their Beijing Bureau. They did make history by being the first to present from that location. The News At 10:30 that night also presented live from the same location but it seemed that EVERY item had a presenter somewhere live - Mark Austin handed over to people scattered all around the world and the Uk. It was quite an impressive feat!


On the occasions that i have seen it recently, ITV News has had reporters all over the place for the 6.30, which has impressed me greatly. Its amazing how something like that can change your whole opinion about a network's bulletins.
AN
Andrew Founding member
ohwhatanight posted:
The first I heard of the snooker player, Paul Hunter's death was around 10pm last night and so intentionally watched both news programmes to see if this breaking news was mentioned. Neither programme mentioned the sad story. .

It was mentioned in Calendar News at 10.50pm though
BR
Brekkie
They couldn't have timed it better really, could they!

It's all quite interesting really - I think they've got something on the Beijing Olympics coming up later in the week, and of course we assumed that China will be invaded by Sue Barker and co in a couple of years.


So how big exactly is the "bureax"?

Just the word makes it sound probably alot more important than it is - and while you imagine open plan newsroom in the middle of some sky scraper, I'm guessing in reality it's probably a couple of blokes in a small office in the backstreets somewhere!
LO
Londoner
Brekkie Boy posted:
So how big exactly is the "bureax"?

John Ray, producer and cameraman, sharing an office with Channel 4's Lindsey Hilsum and her team.
JH
Jonathan H
Londoner posted:
Brekkie Boy posted:
So how big exactly is the "bureax"?

John Ray, producer and cameraman, sharing an office with Channel 4's Lindsey Hilsum and her team.


Indeed. Just the sort of size of most other foreign bureaux of most other news broadcasters.
LO
Londoner
John Ray's diary is now on the Press Gazette wesbite:
www.pressgazette.co.uk/article/091006/working_week_061006

Lindsey Hilsum is writing a regular letter from Beijing in the New Statesman:
www.newstatesman.com/200609180028
RM
Roger Mellie
Brekkie Boy posted:
and of course we assumed that China will be invaded by Sue Barker and co in a couple of years.


Not if North Korea get there first! Shocked

I have to say I have been impressed with ITV's efforts in China. There have been some really interesting reports and good journalism featured this week. It has made a refreshing change.

It is fascinating to see how China is fast evolving-- amazing that ITV has been allowed to set up an office in the country.

Sorry to be pedantic but.... one "bureau"; "bureaux" in the plural. Don't blame me, blame the French Wink
BR
Brekkie
Roger Mellie posted:
Sorry to be pedantic but.... one "bureau"; "bureaux" in the plural. Don't blame me, blame the French Wink



I knew I'd got it wrong! Laughing
JO
Jonathan
Brekkie Boy posted:
Roger Mellie posted:
Sorry to be pedantic but.... one "bureau"; "bureaux" in the plural. Don't blame me, blame the French Wink



I knew I'd got it wrong! Laughing

I'm sure it nonly changes in French itself? I always thought it was bureaus in English. Anyhoo out I step.
RM
Roger Mellie
Jonathan posted:
Brekkie Boy posted:
Roger Mellie posted:
Sorry to be pedantic but.... one "bureau"; "bureaux" in the plural. Don't blame me, blame the French Wink



I knew I'd got it wrong! Laughing

I'm sure it nonly changes in French itself? I always thought it was bureaus in English. Anyhoo out I step.


I think it can be either in English. We're very inconsistent with loan words and their plurals in English. It is always medium/media, datum/data, criterion/criteria, agendum/agenda, phenomenon/phenomena..... but millennium/millennia or millenniums; stadium/ stadia or stadiums; octopus/ octopuses or octopodes (but not octopi apparently).

Arrrgh Pale Why can't we be consistent with loan words like in the Dutch language. Then again English is a mongrel language anyway Laughing

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