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CF
CatsFast101
gottago posted:
ELM 2011 posted:

Then can the not move Neighbours to 5pm or 6pm? And put their main bulletin at 5:30pm?


Nope. It would be suicide moving two of their highest rated and most consistent programmes. 6:30 is a slot that they can never do well in and the seven o'clock news is a programme that noone watches and they have to produce so merging the two is a sensible decision, even if it continues to attract a none existent audience.


I suppose, 6:30 though can only do worse with two far superior news programmes on at the time. You would of thought neighbours has a strong enough following to get viewers half an hour later? But often they don't.
NW
nwtv2003
It wouldn't surprise me if scheduling the News at 6.30 is a plan to kill off the bulletin in the long term, there's nothing to stop Channel 5 going to Ofcom moaning that News is being watched by nobody. Wherever Channel 5 schedule their News they're not going to win, and realisitcally the latest they'll show it before 8.00 would be 7.30. Even in 1997 the 8.30 Channel 5 News didn't last that long.

They'd be better just having short bulletins at 6.55, 7.55 and 8.55pm, more people are likely to watch them.
EX
excel99
Having the news at 6.30pm allows them to schedule 60 minute programmes at 7pm. It will also get a better lead in from Home and Away
JK
JK08
Does anybody know the date that ITN takes over..?
BP
Bob Paisley
nwtv2003 posted:
It wouldn't surprise me if scheduling the News at 6.30 is a plan to kill off the bulletin in the long term, there's nothing to stop Channel 5 going to Ofcom moaning that News is being watched by nobody. Wherever Channel 5 schedule their News they're not going to win, and realisitcally the latest they'll show it before 8.00 would be 7.30. Even in 1997 the 8.30 Channel 5 News didn't last that long.

They'd be better just having short bulletins at 6.55, 7.55 and 8.55pm, more people are likely to watch them.


Doesn't all this effectively cease to be a problem once digital switch-over is complete? Channel 5 can just abandon their public service remit and show as little or as much news as they like, when they like.
DO
dosxuk
Bob Paisley posted:
nwtv2003 posted:
It wouldn't surprise me if scheduling the News at 6.30 is a plan to kill off the bulletin in the long term, there's nothing to stop Channel 5 going to Ofcom moaning that News is being watched by nobody. Wherever Channel 5 schedule their News they're not going to win, and realisitcally the latest they'll show it before 8.00 would be 7.30. Even in 1997 the 8.30 Channel 5 News didn't last that long.

They'd be better just having short bulletins at 6.55, 7.55 and 8.55pm, more people are likely to watch them.


Doesn't all this effectively cease to be a problem once digital switch-over is complete? Channel 5 can just abandon their public service remit and show as little or as much news as they like, when they like.


And lose their 5 / 105 EPG slot in the process.
NG
noggin Founding member
Bob Paisley posted:

Doesn't all this effectively cease to be a problem once digital switch-over is complete? Channel 5 can just abandon their public service remit and show as little or as much news as they like, when they like.


Not if they want to be on a PSB mux rather than a COM mux.

As DSO continues, the main Channel 5 broadcast is being carried on PSB2 (the mux that also carries ITV1, C4 etc.) and is available to a much larger viewing population than the 3 COM multiplexes (one of which used to carry Channel 5 - and still does in pre-DSO regions) that remain on just the pre-DSO transmitters (without the extra relays/fill-ins that the PSB mixes have)

PSB1 carries the BBC SD channels
PSB2 carries the ITV/C4/Five main channels as well as C4+1, E4, More4, ITV1+1, ITV2.
PSB3 carries BBC One HD, BBC HD, ITV1 HD and C4HD
MA
Macalolo
Has the five news website disappeared and if so for how long has it been gone?
JO
Jonny
Macalolo posted:
Has the five news website disappeared and if so for how long has it been gone?

There was a Five News site?
MA
Markymark
noggin posted:
Bob Paisley posted:

Doesn't all this effectively cease to be a problem once digital switch-over is complete? Channel 5 can just abandon their public service remit and show as little or as much news as they like, when they like.


Not if they want to be on a PSB mux rather than a COM mux.

As DSO continues, the main Channel 5 broadcast is being carried on PSB2 (the mux that also carries ITV1, C4 etc.) and is available to a much larger viewing population than the 3 COM multiplexes (one of which used to carry Channel 5 - and still does in pre-DSO regions) that remain on just the pre-DSO transmitters (without the extra relays/fill-ins that the PSB mixes have)


C5 has actually been running on Mux 2 (pre DSO areas) and PSB 2 (post DSO areas) since Sept 30th 2009.

It swapped with ITV 3, which took its place on SDN/COM 4

Poor decision, because it was after DSO had started, so many people who had DTT for the first time at DSO, suddenly lost ITV 3, because they are served by PSB only relay stations.

The swap really should have occurred before DSO started.
JK
JK08
Macalolo posted:
Has the five news website disappeared and if so for how long has it been gone?


All ther has been for a long time now is;
http://www.channel5.com/shows/5-news
BU
buster
Markymark posted:
noggin posted:
Bob Paisley posted:

Doesn't all this effectively cease to be a problem once digital switch-over is complete? Channel 5 can just abandon their public service remit and show as little or as much news as they like, when they like.


Not if they want to be on a PSB mux rather than a COM mux.

As DSO continues, the main Channel 5 broadcast is being carried on PSB2 (the mux that also carries ITV1, C4 etc.) and is available to a much larger viewing population than the 3 COM multiplexes (one of which used to carry Channel 5 - and still does in pre-DSO regions) that remain on just the pre-DSO transmitters (without the extra relays/fill-ins that the PSB mixes have)


C5 has actually been running on Mux 2 (pre DSO areas) and PSB 2 (post DSO areas) since Sept 30th 2009.

It swapped with ITV 3, which took its place on SDN/COM 4

Poor decision, because it was after DSO had started, so many people who had DTT for the first time at DSO, suddenly lost ITV 3, because they are served by PSB only relay stations.

The swap really should have occurred before DSO started.


Off topic I know, but on this subject I was staying somewhere servcied by a relay station at Christmas so only had Freeview Lite. Am I right in thinking that ITV1+1 and C4+1 have to be on the PSB2 mux as that allows regional advertising variations? Because if not it seems odd for them not to run, say, ITV3 and Film 4 in those slots, instead putting timeshift channels there reducing the choice available to Freeview Lite even more.

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