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MA
Markymark

Doesn't all this effectively cease to be a problem once digital switch-over is complete? Channel 5 can just abandon their public service remit and show as little or as much news as they like, when they like.


Not if they want to be on a PSB mux rather than a COM mux.

As DSO continues, the main Channel 5 broadcast is being carried on PSB2 (the mux that also carries ITV1, C4 etc.) and is available to a much larger viewing population than the 3 COM multiplexes (one of which used to carry Channel 5 - and still does in pre-DSO regions) that remain on just the pre-DSO transmitters (without the extra relays/fill-ins that the PSB mixes have)


C5 has actually been running on Mux 2 (pre DSO areas) and PSB 2 (post DSO areas) since Sept 30th 2009.

It swapped with ITV 3, which took its place on SDN/COM 4

Poor decision, because it was after DSO had started, so many people who had DTT for the first time at DSO, suddenly lost ITV 3, because they are served by PSB only relay stations.

The swap really should have occurred before DSO started.


Off topic I know, but on this subject I was staying somewhere servcied by a relay station at Christmas so only had Freeview Lite. Am I right in thinking that ITV1+1 and C4+1 have to be on the PSB2 mux as that allows regional advertising variations? Because if not it seems odd for them not to run, say, ITV3 and Film 4 in those slots, instead putting timeshift channels there reducing the choice available to Freeview Lite even more.


The regional thing might have something to do with it, although
there's some 'regionality' with COM 4 anyway, to allow E4 in Wales (as its PSB 2 slot is taken there by S4C).
It might be that the +1s have larger audiences than ITV3 and Film4, whatever the reason, it'll be for the convenience of the broadcasters, and/or Ofcom's bizarre directives, rather than the viewers !
MA
Macalolo
JK08 posted:
Has the five news website disappeared and if so for how long has it been gone?


All ther has been for a long time now is;
http://www.channel5.com/shows/5-news


That's it, I clicked on a link and it wasn't workings but thanks Smile
GO
gottago

Doesn't all this effectively cease to be a problem once digital switch-over is complete? Channel 5 can just abandon their public service remit and show as little or as much news as they like, when they like.


Not if they want to be on a PSB mux rather than a COM mux.

As DSO continues, the main Channel 5 broadcast is being carried on PSB2 (the mux that also carries ITV1, C4 etc.) and is available to a much larger viewing population than the 3 COM multiplexes (one of which used to carry Channel 5 - and still does in pre-DSO regions) that remain on just the pre-DSO transmitters (without the extra relays/fill-ins that the PSB mixes have)


C5 has actually been running on Mux 2 (pre DSO areas) and PSB 2 (post DSO areas) since Sept 30th 2009.

It swapped with ITV 3, which took its place on SDN/COM 4

Poor decision, because it was after DSO had started, so many people who had DTT for the first time at DSO, suddenly lost ITV 3, because they are served by PSB only relay stations.

The swap really should have occurred before DSO started.


Off topic I know, but on this subject I was staying somewhere servcied by a relay station at Christmas so only had Freeview Lite. Am I right in thinking that ITV1+1 and C4+1 have to be on the PSB2 mux as that allows regional advertising variations? Because if not it seems odd for them not to run, say, ITV3 and Film 4 in those slots, instead putting timeshift channels there reducing the choice available to Freeview Lite even more.


The regional thing might have something to do with it, although
there's some 'regionality' with COM 4 anyway, to allow E4 in Wales (as its PSB 2 slot is taken there by S4C).
It might be that the +1s have larger audiences than ITV3 and Film4, whatever the reason, it'll be for the convenience of the broadcasters, and/or Ofcom's bizarre directives, rather than the viewers !


ITV1+1 is definitely where it is because of its regions. I didn't think C4+1 carried regions though I could be wrong or they might be intending to introduce it in the future which would explain why it's on that mux.
IS
Inspector Sands
ITV1+1 is definitely where it is because of its regions. I didn't think C4+1 carried regions though I could be wrong or they might be intending to introduce it in the future which would explain why it's on that mux.

C4 do have +1 versions of their regions (and one for Ireland) but whether they're on terrestrial or not is another matter... I would have thought so
GM
Gary McEwan
Nice change to the 5 News times starting from tonight.

5pm then again at 6.30pm, wonder how it will work out for them?
LL
London Lite Founding member
Nice change to the 5 News times starting from tonight.

5pm then again at 6.30pm, wonder how it will work out for them?


I had a chat with 5 News over Twitter and the running time for the 6.30 is 29 minutes. No change to the 5pm bulletin.
GM
Gary McEwan
Nice change to the 5 News times starting from tonight.

5pm then again at 6.30pm, wonder how it will work out for them?


I had a chat with 5 News over Twitter and the running time for the 6.30 is 29 minutes. No change to the 5pm bulletin.


So is this 6.30pm bulletin is going to be a proper news bulletin? Wonder how it fares against the ITV News...
GO
gottago
Nice change to the 5 News times starting from tonight.

5pm then again at 6.30pm, wonder how it will work out for them?


I had a chat with 5 News over Twitter and the running time for the 6.30 is 29 minutes. No change to the 5pm bulletin.


So is this 6.30pm bulletin is going to be a proper news bulletin? Wonder how it fares against the ITV News...


Probably no worse than it was doing at 7pm or indeed OKTV was doing at 6:30.
SD
SuperDave
Any ratings for the 6.30 last night? I agree that it shouldn't do any worse than the 7 it replaces. Hopefully, if ITN do a reasonable job (and Five gives it some much needed promotion) it may actually improve on the time-slot average.
LJ
Live at five with Jeremy
Why would ITN allow Five News to be in direct competition with the news at 6:30?
DH
Daniel H
And what is the need for another, near identical bulletin just an hour after the last one finishes?

It might as well just be a repeat.
SD
SuperDave
ITN don't really get a say - they're just a supplier. It's up to Channel 5 when they schedule it. At the moment ITN allow it to compete directly with C4 News at 7.

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